IMPORTANT: Issues with latest update / GNOME / Budgie / GTK apps

riffer

When I opened two nautilus windows and copied data from one to the other it locked me out of doing anything else until the process was finished. i.e. I couldn't click anything. Happened every time I copied something after the update.

brent

riffer lately I've been right-click/move to/copy to old school way of moving stuff. Was wondering if the lockout exists under that method as well. It might rule something out.

EbonJaeger

riffer Hm. I'm not able to reproduce this...

EbonJaeger

Cloak I can't reproduce this either. Can you or someone else give more exact steps?

brent

EbonJaeger cannot reproduce either. I renamed three desktop folders while in nautilus.

markdj

I have an issue in GNOME in that the Night Light function doesn't work. It's nothing to do with the graphics driver or remote desktop as the issue is present on my main AMD Ryzen 7 4800h machine my Lenovo X240 Thinkpad.

Staudey

SOLUSfiddler Can't reproduce this unfortunately. You're using Solus Budgie, right? Possibly a visual glitch? I can see the tab selection, but just barely. Have you tried if it works (even if the visual hint is not there)? (i.e. simply pressing TAB and Enter when the window pops up)

markdj I can reproduce this issue, adding to the list. [edit: Found a fix, patched in the unstable repo]

Cloak Unfortunately I also can't reproduce this. Added it to the list because other's have confirmed it.

brent

Staudey you are right, *-dark pretty much did all the work. went ahead and disabled Dark Theme toggle. No visible differences either. Went ahead and disabled Built In Theme too. The only difference---that I could see---with the enigmatic Built In Theme button being on or off is my task bar being opaque or solid---and bold font.
Check this out from my top task bar---
Built in theme disabled:

Built in theme enabled:

cra-cra yes?

SOLUSfiddler

Hi y'all,
not sure if this applies to the same GNOME stack problems, I'll mention it just in case:

I would click the ON/OFF button in the tray, select SHUTDOWN and would then be able to select the SHUTDOWN button in the middle of the screen by hitting the TAB key, then hit ENTER to shutdown.

That selection using the TAB key doesn't work anymore since the latest update.
Thanks for all your help!

SOLUSfiddler

Staudey
Strangely I have to say that just now I was able to use the TAB key and select SHUTDOWN!
But earlier tonight I had not been able to use TAB to select SHUTDOWN, not even "blind". There hadn't been any reaction and no "selected" frame around the SHUTDOWN button was visible either.

Teggs

In addition to several of the issues above, I have found that the text in the main area of Nautilus (not the Left Panel) is slightly blurry since the update. Also, they have given each item (file or folder) a huge tile, so that multiselecting by clicking and dragging a mouse is difficult. You are far more likely to hit the invisible tile around an item than the small invisible space left between tiles.

This kind of thing makes me question not only the Gnome team's direction, but their competence. And the Solus team is left trying to make something good out of something not good, yet again.

Staudey

minh Can confirm that issue. Oddly enough it works (from the command line) while the graphical app is open. There is a merge request which kinda fixes the issue, but in a weird way, and it comes with some additional problems.
Unfortunately gnome-screenshot is no longer a core GNOME app, and thus receives less support (see e.g. here)

Teggs Yes, that's something I've noticed too, but unfortunately I think once again an intended change by upstream (gotta google the corresponding issue tickets or changeset later)

minh

With the update, I could not take screenshots of an area and put them into the clipboard. Neither using shotcuts
Ctrl + Shift + Prnt nor from terminal gnome-screenshot -ac

minh

Staudey Can confirm that issue. Oddly enough it works (from the command line) while the graphical app is open

Thanks for looing into this @Staudey, and your trick did the job. After trying several times, it (the terminal command) works now even without the GUI open, this is really weird. What I did in the meantime is install and uninstall flameshot and budgie-screenshot-applet. So now I'm not sure what fixed the issue. I have one question (not related to the issue directly), it doesn't work when I set up a custom shortcut like "gnome-screenshot -ac", but it works with just "gnome-screenshot". Any idea?

infinitymdm

Here's an issue that may be related to the Nautilus crashes on renaming files: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/pango/-/issues/696

I've only had it happen to me once or twice, and I can't seem to replicate it again. The behavior was exactly as described in that issue.

infinitymdm

infinitymdm Following up again on the Nautilus crash when renaming files:

Just happened to me after rebooting my system. Here is the sequence of events, as best I can recall.

Launched Nautilus
Used popover menu to show hidden files
Navigated to ~/.config/gtk-4.0
Right clicked on gtk.css, and clicked rename
Pressed right arrow key
Expected: Cursor moves to the end of the text entry box so I can tack a ".old" onto my file.
Actual result: Nautilus immediately crashed.

unclemez

@Staudey Are we still going to have any need for this Hack after this weekend update?
if there is one ... 😅

Staudey

unclemez I assume you're talking about either the dark theme toggle or Gradience hacks. In both cases, yes, unfortunately this will stay with us for the foreseeable future.

Staudey

brent So a big MR fixing the functionality and performance of the Nautilus/Files List View was merged today, which also should take care of your issue of it not remembering sorting preferences [Issue no. 12 in my list]. Gonna push it to the unstable repository now.

brent

10/21 update / 108 packages.
Staudey! Memory fixed in Nautilus. Thank you. It opened the way I left it.

New problem is I drag a file from Desktop to Videos. for example. and it doesn't crash like a lot of users had, it just puts me in videos folder even though I did not navigate there...

Lastly is this is a gnome issue?

korla used to be dots even for the app being used. where did this blunt ugly dash come from? If not gnome/thread-relevant please disregard.

all else appears fine including browsers and other apps. thanks nautilus squad!

brent

brent @Staudey --I retract my post of ^ 3 days ago. Memory of file order in Nautilus has regressed, for me, to none. No settings preserved. It was a nice 72 hours while I had it.

sangheeta

I transferred my topic here, about nautilus being slow to start. From the terminal with journalctl -f I have this:

pat@solus ~ $ sudo journalctl -f
Mot de passe : 
oct. 23 06:31:27 solus rtkit-daemon[1137]: Supervising 3 threads of 3 processes of 1 users.
oct. 23 06:31:31 solus budgie-panel[1259]: budgie_abomination_app_group_get_windows: assertion 'self != NULL' failed
oct. 23 06:31:31 solus firefox.desktop[2088]: Missing chrome or resource URL: resource://gre/modules/UpdateListener.sys.mjs
oct. 23 06:31:33 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Activating via systemd: service name='org.gnome.Terminal' unit='gnome-terminal-server.service' requested by ':1.86' (uid=1000 pid=4224 comm="gnome-terminal " label="unconfined")
oct. 23 06:31:33 solus systemd[1033]: Starting GNOME Terminal Server...
oct. 23 06:31:33 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Terminal'
oct. 23 06:31:33 solus systemd[1033]: Started GNOME Terminal Server.
oct. 23 06:31:34 solus systemd[1033]: Started VTE child process 4252 launched by gnome-terminal-server process 4231.
oct. 23 06:31:45 solus sudo[4269]:      pat : TTY=pts/0 ; PWD=/home/pat ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/journalctl -f
oct. 23 06:31:45 solus sudo[4269]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root by (uid=1000)
oct. 23 06:31:51 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Activating service name='org.gnome.Nautilus' requested by ':1.38' (uid=1000 pid=1259 comm="budgie-panel " label="unconfined")
oct. 23 06:31:51 solus dbus-daemon[4274]: writing oom_score_adj error: Permission denied
oct. 23 06:31:52 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.Nautilus'
oct. 23 06:31:55 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Activating service name='org.gnome.DiskUtility' requested by ':1.89' (uid=1000 pid=4274 comm="/usr/bin/nautilus --gapplication-service " label="unconfined")
oct. 23 06:31:55 solus budgie-wm.desktop[1249]: Window manager warning: Buggy client sent a _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message with a timestamp of 0 for 0x2200004
oct. 23 06:31:55 solus dbus-daemon[4307]: writing oom_score_adj error: Permission denied
oct. 23 06:31:55 solus dbus-daemon[1050]: [session uid=1000 pid=1050] Successfully activated service 'org.gnome.DiskUtility'
oct. 23 06:31:56 solus dbus-daemon[571]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.hostname1' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.hostname1.service' requested by ':1.104' (uid=1000 pid=4274 comm="/usr/bin/nautilus --gapplication-service " label="unconfined")

With last 21 october update, dark materia gtk theme and just after a fresh laptop boot.

brent

sangheeta I don't know how to read any of that. My nautilus still a little sluggish with spinning ball, but my terminal output is clean:
$ nautilus
---wonder what yours looks like?

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