Any thoughts on Waterfox? Has anyone ever tried it? I just downloaded Vivaldi and will give it another go. Seems heavy - too many options. I might be going down the rabbit hole but admit the notes feature kinda appeals to me - not that I've ever needed such an option in the past. We shall see. I'll try to use it exclusively for a week and see where it leads. Thanks @JoshStrobl

    brent

    Your reply is a good reminder to keep hardships that were in the past, in the past, and consider the here and now. Sage life advice, as well.

    Tough to do sometimes. Your post struck me in a way that has nothing to do with computers at all. Well said.

    jppelt I was curious about Waterfox too, although when I was looking into it late last year
    it was about the time that it was sold to a corporation and there was all sorts of speculation and
    suspicion that ensued so I stayed away from it. I really don't know the details of what happened and
    I obviously wasn't interested in pursuing it but something maybe worth investigating before you decide.

    Brucehankins No more than having a phone with a camera on it in the US. Somebody's always watching. Really, if you are on the internet in anyway, you have to understand you're sacrificing some of your privacy and data for utility or convince. Other than being Chinese, they haven't had anything that raises giant security red flags that I know of.

    Brucehankins Nothing, we only have a choice to pick who can spy on us. Chinese or USA? Decision is up to you.

      RobertK that's the beauty of choice. This thread got me thinking, am I missing out on something? I downloaded Brave and Vivaldi to give those a go.

        I've been an ardent Firefox user for many years. No complaints. Since last week, I've been trying out Brave upon my wife's recommendation. Not bad, seems to use less memory. I do prefer FF layout though. Will see how it goes .... 😀

          elfprince Please report back. That whole Brave 'we will block an ad with one of our own ads' thing always creeped me out and rubbed me the wrong way, probably because I never understood it. I'm happy with FF but always been curious about Brave.

            brent Didn't notice any such things. but I did disable all nonsense in settings. 🤣

            jppelt Waterfox seemed to be ok was trying it out on deb install got where it wouldnt install (waterfox Problem) so i deleted it..lol then that system crashed. Then crashed my solus install on updates. But back to your question I think it was alright and it was being actively updated havent tried it for awhile not sure how its matured just looked at website seems still active I had no real problems they have an appimage https://appimage.github.io/Waterfox_Current/

              I've been testing/evaluating the new Edge since April 2019, first on Win10, then Android, then iOS. Microsoft has done a good job of unGoogling the browser, and I'm satisfied that the Edge offers a reasonable level of privacy within the Microsoft ecosystem. Edge is still something of a work in progress, but all the basics are in place in the Win10, Android and iOS Stable builds, and I assume that Edge on Linux will get to that point in a matter of months.

              I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for 15+ years but am willing to consider moving to Edge if and when a stable release is available on Solus. However, because my Solus install is a production install, I'm not interested in using any apps (including Edge) that Solus does not include in the repository. I've noticed that Solus includes various browsers (including Stable, Dev and Canary versions of Chrome) in the 3rd Party repository. Does anyone know whether Solus has any plans to do so with Edge?

                tomscharbach Does anyone know whether Solus has any plans to do so with Edge?

                It isn't redistributable and we have no plans on including it in Third Party (we're not accepting any new software in there). So Microsoft should probably support it as a snap.

                  JoshStrobl

                  Thanks for the clarification, Josh. It is what I expected. Microsoft seems to be primarily interested in enterprise suppliers (Canonical, RedHat, SUSE) in this and all things Linux (e.g. WSL2, the MS repository). I don't expect them to go beyond .deb and .rpm releases unless they release as a Snap or Flatpak, I'll see what they do down the road, if anything.

                    WhiteWolf I'm with you. The reason I do not or would not buy Lenovo - owned by the Chinese version of NSA. Not saying MS, Dell or anyone else doesn't allow backdoors or actively collects info. I have some, albeit limited, legal recourse in the US, none in China. Also, I just like when things are built (mostly) local - big fan of System76.

                    Axios Thanks..I might try the App. I've taken above recommendations and started testing Vivaldi for daily use on my laptop - right now, feels clunky. I've been using FF for what seems to be an eternity but also starts to feel clunky and there is always so much drama at the Mozilla foundation.

                    Well, until then, let's see what Vivaldi brings...

                      jppelt While I was unhappy that IBM was not picky about who bought them out, I still love Lenovo. I enjoy their older desktop thinkcentres the most. These are very well-built workhorses. Because I prefer to buy used Lenovos I can't upgrade my firmware or hardware since I am not the owner of record (of the serial #) and at their website they only deal with owner of record (last time I tried). So there are not the tentacles you allude to.
                      Perhaps owning Lenovo new is different? I don't want to speak out of turn.

                      edit: yes I know I am off topic on a thread that went off topic many posts ago. I'm sorry.

                      Wow guess there will always be a browser War!!...lol

                      Been having trouble with firefox lately couldnt exactly figure why then was led to it by an extension update and further research it was (Nano-Adblock) its not in mozilla extensions anymore just for google chrome BUT! because of the new developers and code they added its now classified as (Malware) so please delete it in both chrome and firefox or do your own research if you use it. I have got decide what problems it could have caused now. Going back to old trusted ublock..lol
                      (P.s. kinda went along with the post in here just thought I would mention it)

                        Axios thanks for the tip. i have an adblock in FF but unsure it's Nano---nano is the creator or official name?
                        PS--umatrix also a beast