Solus 4.4 "Harmony" released

elfprince

brent

WetGeek honestly the weekend I spent with Kionite-wayland I could not tell the difference at all. But I could barely use Kionite so there's that...

elfprince you did not get your performance question directly answered and I read all link (staudeys fostodon threads wouldn't open for me but I read the others). In fact a DDG search with the words "wayland difference X11 performance linux" gave me exclusively gaming articles and nothing to do with actual performance. I read all links sent to you....it just seems like every reason but performance is covered: underdeveloped, X11 peeps bolted for Wayland, and all signs that Wayland is going to be friendlier and easier for package builders, devs, and maintainers (when kinks ironed out); simple evolution., I get the feeling performance is not the or a factor but there are a bunch of other factors instead.
--just an opinion based on about 35 minutes reading last night.
As usual my impressions could be entirely wrong🙂

WetGeek

elfprince What are the advantages of using Wayland vs X11 ecosystem?

I forgot to mention the rather subjective feeling that Wayland performs better. It just feels better than X11, in my opinion. I realize I don't have much of a way to measure that, but I enjoy using it.

Still got that problem of taking a VM to full-screen on a Wayland host, though. (Locks up both the VM and the host.
Takes an impolite shutdown to continue.) To work with VMs in a full-screen mode, I need to log into an X11 session. I hope that gets fixed soon.

Cloak

I understand the issue with X-11 is it's almost unsupported upstream for Linux.. Much more effort is going into the Wayland project. The BSD world has it's own x-11 bubble and will continue to be supported... I encourage y'all to give a BSD a test drive..

apapamarkou

Wonderful ! GUI good, CLI good, Wayland good, Pipewire good, Wine good, Installation fast, Speed unparallel. Very good job, thank you!!!

WetGeek

brent In fact a DDG search with the words

So, you duck duck went, eh? How does it feel to be duck duck gone now? Any smarter?

elfprince

brent Thanks for dipping down the red pill hole. It is not cut 'n dry, is it? More like preferences, just like dev team members preferring matrix to forum. We have no choice but to follow, or leave. 😄

Staudey

brent elfprince you did not get your performance question directly answered

That's because he didn't ask about performance as far as I can see.

brent

WetGeek their results are as poor as google's for many things but it is my go-to engine. I haven't used google proper at home for some years.
when I really want to get smarter I use Mojeek🙂

WetGeek

brent it is my go-to engine. I haven't used google proper at home for some years.

Same here. I don't use Google for anything, if I can help it. DDG has never let me down.

WetGeek

brent when I really want to get smarter I use Mojeek

Interesting. That's one I'd never heard of. I think I'll look for it in the repository and give it a try. It seems to have the same "no tracking" philosophy as DDG.

EDIT: Nope. Not in the repository. How did you access it?

brent

WetGeek not the repo. it's just a (a finnish? I forgot) search engine you can bookmark. it's interesting. it goes down many layers of the internet and you may notice the absence of things used to. Or not. it's not deep/dark type weirdness---you know how google and ddg will give you basically identical top 40 results in response to your keywords? this one does not.

penny-farthing

I tested this new ISO image (Budgie) on VirtualBox and the performances are there. 😃
Congratulations to the whole team of Solus who has not spared their sentence to provide its users so quickly to this beautiful result, which announces many others. And the reactivation of Solus by Distrowatch will allow it to be recognized now as a Linux distribution with which it will be necessary to count.
This version 4.4 was called Harmony, she reminds me of the title of the 14th episode of the British TV series 'The Prisoner': Living in Harmony:
https://www.midnightonly.com/2017/05/24/the-prison-living-in-harmony-1967/
Very good choice, Solus will show its singularity by another approach in the design of a Linux distribution, just as the number 6 dreamed of another world ...
Just a small detail (as a famous inspector would say) : the default theme defined for this new version is Materia ; so in LibreOffice Writer (Tools menu, then Extensions manager ...), the detail of the added extensions is not displayed, click on each of them so that it is displayed in black on a blue background ; however, unless I'm mistaken, it seemed to me that the Materia Dark theme was that held by Solus, and with it, the detail of the extensions is perfectly readable. That being said, it can be corrected manually, it was just to tell you.
Best ragards !

penny-farthing

penny-farthing Oups ! Wrong link in my previous post, here it is rectified:
https://www.midnightonly.com/2017/05/24/the-prisoner-living-in-harmony-1967/

WetGeek

brent it's just a (a finnish? I forgot) search engine you can bookmark

Vivaldi makes it easy to add search engines. It's the first time I've done it, but I think I got it right. If you look, Firefox probably has a similar feature.

According to Wikipedia, it's based in the UK. Dunno exactly what that means. The UK is pretty spread out.

WetGeek

WetGeek It's the first time I've done it, but I think I got it right.

Almost got it right. Actually, the url needs to be https://www.mojeek.com/search?q=%s

If you can find where to put that in Firefox, it'll be easier than a bookmark, I think. On the address line, I just typed:
m SpaceX
and it immediately returned the result.

EDIT: the %s gets substituted by the search term. On Firefox that might vary, but it's likely to be the same.

Staudey

elfprince More like preferences, just like dev team members preferring matrix to forum. We have no choice but to follow, or leave. 😄

Ever since you complained about that there have been regular posts detailing the changes in a given week's sync have been posted to the forums by team members like @EbonJaeger

Surely you don't expect the team to also move their day-to-day chatter here. A forum is not a nice place to have a fast-paced conversation. Post a message, then keep reloading the page until you see the answer from the other person(s), rinse and repeat ^^

vinceff

Incredible release, budgie on Solus is back on my desk and i really want to keep it !

brent

Harvey As we usually mention these sort of changes between ISO releases, Solus sets vm.max_map_count=2147483642 and have done so since May 2023 (Existing installs need not do anything its already done). Why you might care about that: https://www.phoronix.com/news/Fedora-39-VM-Max-Map-Count

So basically the only difference between updated iso 4.4 and my updated hdd 4.3 to 4.4 is I never uninstalled nautilus but you guys did?
think I will do that now.

ReillyBrogan

brent pre-existing installations do not get zram activated automatically. Only new 4.4 installs do. This is easy to do though, run sudo eopkg it zram-generator-defaults and you'll have zram enabled on your next boot.

penny-farthing

ReillyBrogan That is interesting.
For my part, I had added to the file /etc /fstab, the following line :
TMPFS /TMP TMPFS NODEV, NOSUID, SIZE = 20%, Mode = 1777 0 0
Does installing zram-generator-defaults duplicate work or not, and if so, which one is to be recommended ?

olivir

ReillyBrogan What is the advantage (for a machine with a lot of ram) ?

ReillyBrogan

penny-farthing It looks like you are creating a tmpfs mount for /tmp, this is not the same as ZRAM. ZRAM is a compressed swap device that lives in memory, it's most useful for devices with low memory but devices with more memory can also benefit. There's no downside to enabling it, if your system doesn't need that memory then it won't use it and the performance impact is negligible.

olivir There's probably not a big difference, but your system can store more filesystem pages in memory which can improve responsiveness.

ard

What a joy, I am back on Solus!

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