What's going on with the OS?

synth-ruiner

Semenov the package is called linux-lts. you have to run sudo clr-boot-manager update afterward too, I think, and pick the kernel you want in your bootloader.

Staudey

synth-ruiner To add to that, here is the documentation about our kernel versions and related modules:

https://github.com/getsolus/help-center-docs/blob/master/troubleshooting/boot-management/en.md

ReillyBrogan

So to be clear you're not experiencing this issue with the 5.15.110 kernel?

Semenov

ReillyBrogan Yep, it looks so. I switched to 5.15 and yesterday it worked with no chrashes.

Does it mean that now Solus is not for me? Because if this is only KDE issue, I would prefer to stay with Solus and switch to MATE after 4.4 release.

CorvusRuber

It's quite probably a kernel related issue, there's something in branch 6.X that doesn't play well with your hardware.
Pretty sure that even switching to Mate will cause problems if you're going to run a non LTS (5.15) kernel; which is a problem, since sooner or later the 5.15 branch will be EOLed (like the 4.X branch before it that was used as LTS on Solus).

Semenov

UPD:
Nope, just now Solus has been frozen even with 5.15.

Axios

I would do a fresh install and updates first thing after install and see if problem persists
If it does I would seriously look at getting more current hardware
Running a modern Os on older Hardware you probably will have some issues Its nobodies fault really
Its near impossible to keep stuff going forever unless you regress backwards again in the Os or change to another
Os.
And the amount of time wasted both yours and the programmers is of no benefit to either
But thats up to the developers I am not one and dont speak for there decessions or help

Just my opinion not trying to ruffle feathers either
There are many ways to look at it I guess whatever fits your situation I guess.

stomletz

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers [8086:1904] (rev 08)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Xeon E3-1200 v5/E3-1500 v5/6th Gen Core Processor Host Bridge/DRAM Registers [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
	Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=10 <?>
	Kernel driver in use: skl_uncore

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] [8086:1916] (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: Lenovo Skylake GT2 [HD Graphics 520] [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 125
	Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
	Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
	I/O ports at e000 [size=64]
	Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [virtual] [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: [40] Vendor Specific Information: Len=0c <?>
	Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
	Capabilities: [ac] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
	Capabilities: [d0] Power Management version 2
	Capabilities: [100] Process Address Space ID (PASID)
	Capabilities: [200] Address Translation Service (ATS)
	Capabilities: [300] Page Request Interface (PRI)
	Kernel driver in use: i915

00:08.0 System peripheral [0880]: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6 / E3-1500 v5 / 6th/7th/8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model [8086:1911]
	Subsystem: Lenovo Xeon E3-1200 v5/v6 / E3-1500 v5 / 6th/7th/8th Gen Core Processor Gaussian Mixture Model [17aa:2233]
	Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 255
	Memory at f124a000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
	Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2
	Capabilities: [f0] PCI Advanced Features

00:14.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [8086:9d2f] (rev 21) (prog-if 30 [XHCI])
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP USB 3.0 xHCI Controller [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 124
	Memory at f1220000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 2
	Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/8 Maskable- 64bit+
	Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd

00:14.2 Signal processing controller [1180]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem [8086:9d31] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP Thermal subsystem [17aa:2233]
	Flags: fast devsel, IRQ 11
	Memory at f124b000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-

00:16.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI #1 [8086:9d3a] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP CSME HECI [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 126
	Memory at f124c000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [8c] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Kernel driver in use: mei_me

00:16.3 Serial controller [0700]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP Active Management Technology - SOL [8086:9d3d] (rev 21) (prog-if 02 [16550])
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP Active Management Technology - SOL [17aa:2233]
	Flags: 66MHz, fast devsel, IRQ 19
	I/O ports at e080 [size=8]
	Memory at f1250000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [40] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
	Kernel driver in use: serial

00:17.0 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:9d03] (rev 21) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 123
	Memory at f1248000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
	Memory at f124f000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	I/O ports at e088 [size=8]
	I/O ports at e090 [size=4]
	I/O ports at e060 [size=32]
	Memory at f124d000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
	Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
	Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [a8] SATA HBA v1.0
	Kernel driver in use: ahci

00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #1 [8086:9d10] (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 120
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
	Memory behind bridge: f1100000-f11fffff [size=1M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
	Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
	Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
	Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port [17aa:2233]
	Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
	Capabilities: [140] Access Control Services
	Capabilities: [200] L1 PM Substates
	Capabilities: [220] Secondary PCI Express
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port #3 [8086:9d12] (rev f1) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 121
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=04, sec-latency=0
	I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
	Memory behind bridge: f1000000-f10fffff [size=1M]
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
	Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
	Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
	Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP PCI Express Root Port [17aa:2233]
	Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
	Capabilities: [140] Access Control Services
	Capabilities: [200] L1 PM Substates
	Capabilities: [220] Secondary PCI Express
	Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller [8086:9d48] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP LPC Controller [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:1f.2 Memory controller [0580]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP PMC [8086:9d21] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP PMC [17aa:2233]
	Flags: fast devsel
	Memory at f1244000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]

00:1f.3 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio [8086:9d70] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 64, IRQ 129
	Memory at f1240000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
	Memory at f1230000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

00:1f.4 SMBus [0c05]: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-LP SMBus [8086:9d23] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Sunrise Point-LP SMBus [17aa:2233]
	Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 16
	Memory at f124e000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	I/O ports at efa0 [size=32]
	Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus

00:1f.6 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection I219-LM [8086:156f] (rev 21)
	Subsystem: Lenovo Ethernet Connection I219-LM [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 127
	Memory at f1200000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128K]
	Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Capabilities: [e0] PCI Advanced Features
	Kernel driver in use: e1000e

02:00.0 Unassigned class [ff00]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader [10ec:522a] (rev 01)
	Subsystem: Lenovo RTS522A PCI Express Card Reader [17aa:2233]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 122
	Memory at f1100000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [50] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Capabilities: [70] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
	Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
	Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 00-00-00-01-00-4c-e0-00
	Capabilities: [150] Latency Tolerance Reporting
	Capabilities: [158] L1 PM Substates
	Kernel driver in use: rtsx_pci

04:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 [8086:24f3] (rev 3a)
	Subsystem: Intel Corporation Wireless 8260 [8086:0130]
	Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 128
	Memory at f1000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
	Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
	Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
	Capabilities: [40] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
	Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
	Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 44-85-00-ff-ff-4f-81-ac
	Capabilities: [14c] Latency Tolerance Reporting
	Capabilities: [154] L1 PM Substates
	Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi

Mod edit for formatting

stomletz

apparently I don't understand how to post things neatly.
but, i'm having the same freezing issue.
i can recreate it fairly consistently if i open 30 tabs of youtube and play several of them at once

SOLUS_INVICTUS

Hello,
Thanks for updates !
But :
I have the same Issues with an 2 years old Laptop and Budgie Desktop Enviroment :

2 years old Laptop
8 core 3.6 GHZ CPU
12 Go RAM
1 To SSD for Data + 256 Go MR2 for system

NB : Encrypted disks : LVM for SolusOS and LUKS2 for Data that can slow down Linux but not freeze it

Mate DE seems not affected

Best regards

Semenov

Today I noticed the Nvidia driver in the list of updates. How can I switch between drivers? Or how to find out which one is used?

WetGeek

Semenov How can I switch between drivers? Or how to find out which one is used?

I would just run doflicky. If it's a newer driver -- and appropriate for your system -- it should be updated. I don't know of a way to switch between them, sorry. I've never needed to do that.

FAb7D

Semenov How can I switch between drivers?

You can enable proprietary NVIDIA drivers by going to the Budgie Menu and opening Hardware Drivers.
If there are proprietary drivers that can be installed, they will show up in the box below the description. You can click the item you wish to install and click Install.
Jn the end, once installed, if you search for nvidia in the menu you will find this:

In addition from the terminal you will have something like this:

~ $ lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia_uvm 1617920 0
nvidia_drm 90112 4
nvidia_modeset 1290240 8 nvidia_drm
nvidia 55844864 513 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
drm_kms_helper 249856 3 drm_display_helper,nvidia_drm,i915
drm 782336 13 drm_kms_helper,drm_display_helper,nvidia,drm_buddy,nvidia_drm,i915,ttm
video 65536 2 i915,nvidia_modeset

ReillyBrogan

FAb7D So that won't work because @Semenov is using a laptop that has a nvidia GPU that is simply too old for any of the driver packages we have in the repos. His only choice is to use the noveau driver built in to the kernel.

@Semenov the nvidia package you saw is the modaliases package, which is used for hardware detection. It is installed even if you don't have the nvidia drivers installed (which again you can't do since your hardware is unsupported by any of the Solus ones).

FAb7D

ReillyBrogan So that won't work because @Semenov is using a laptop that has a nvidia GPU that is simply too old for any of the driver packages we have in the repos. His only choice is to use the noveau driver built in to the kernl

But (why) the nvidia-390-glx-driver-current are not good?

"....Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
The 390.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
........GeForce GT 220M 0649 1043 202D A
.......
GeForce GT 220M 0654 A....."
https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/450.80.02/README/supportedchips.html

And try the run files installers Nvidia is not possible (safe-useful)?
https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/tesla-installation-notes/index.html#runfile

ReillyBrogan

It would be really great if we could get system and xorg logs attached to the Phab bug (https://dev.getsol.us/T10529) so that we can actually debug this issue properly.

ermo

ReillyBrogan

Would it perhaps be helpful if you could be very specific (in the copy-paste sense) with the commands you want to see the output from?

FAb7D

Addendum:
"....Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
The 390.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
........GeForce GT 220M 0649 1043 202D A
.......
GeForce GT 220M 0654 A....."
([https://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/450.80.02/README/supportedchips.html](https://) )
So, in your case the package maybe is nvidia-390-glx-driver-current.
At worst-case you can try the run files installers Nvidia (but you risk breaking everything)(I've used them in the past on Suse and Slakware, never on Solus and recent kernels )
[https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/tesla-installation-notes/index.html#runfile](https://)

FAb7D

FAb7D
I had deleted this message... strange.

ReillyBrogan

FAb7D No, the last supported driver for the GT 220M was the 340 series. You can see that it's not on the supported hardware list here

To anyone encountering this issue, please run the following command to get the log from the previous boot.

sudo journalctl --boot=-1 > journal.log

Upload it to hastebin (or similar service) and share the link with the Phab issue. Someone more familiar with xorg will need to mention how to get that log.

FAb7D

ReillyBrogan No, the last supported driver for the GT 220M was the 340 series. You can see that it's not on the supported hardware list here

Ok, thanks

Staudey

Semenov Reilly asked you (and anyone else affected) to provide some logs (see ReillyBrogan)
Without that it's hard to go any further.

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