Microsoft Edge (linux ver)

Solarmass

Brucehankins Have you taken a look at Opera lately? Yes, still chromium based, but some of the features I haven't found anywhere else. Workspaces for example, I use all the time and now can't imagine how I'd use a browser without it.

No, I haven't. I was an Opera refugee and I don't trust this company anymore. Chromium based was one of the reason. I remember their managers' blog-posts and answers back then, they refused to implement some of the main Opera Classic features and it became clear that their target audience not the power-users...

I still use Chrome for work, but will probably replace that with Firefox soon.

👍️

DataDrake

Brucehankins As a former Opera user of many many years: Vivaldi is the one true Opera.

Opera today is a shadow of its former self. It used to be my browser, my email client, my calendar, and my IRC client. There was nothing like it. It used to be my development browser of choice because anything I implemented that worked on Opera was guaranteed to work on every other browser. They followed W3C specifications to the letter and never implemented a feature until it had a formal specification. No draft features. No half-baked implementations of HTTP/2.

Now it's just Chromium with a different interface and the odd useful feature that they brought back from the old Opera.

Solarmass

DataDrake As a former Opera user of many many years: Vivaldi is the one true Opera.

jppelt

JoshStrobl Out of curiosity, which one do you recommend? I am assuming Firefox as it comes with the distro. I do admit, I've come onboard with Gnome MPV in lieu of VLC. The Solus team has really put a cohesive suite together.

JoshStrobl

jppelt I use FIrefox on a daily basis because I'm a heavy user of Multi-Account Containers, but I'd go Vivaldi.

jppelt

JoshStrobl I'm using Vivaldi now. F2 function is killer - then again, I like the Albert app too. A little overwhelming at first but the tiling, notes, and everything else just 'fits.' I removed Firefox and Brave. Stopped distro hopping with Solus. Stopped browser hopping with Vivaldi. Thanks!

Brucehankins

WetGeek No more than having a phone with a camera on it in the US. Somebody's always watching. Really, if you are on the internet in anyway, you have to understand you're sacrificing some of your privacy and data for utility or convince. Other than being Chinese, they haven't had anything that raises giant security red flags that I know of.
The same could question could be asked to users of Deepin Linux, Huawei, Oppo, OnePlus (owned by Oppo/BBK) or any other number of things from China. What makes one Chinese brand or company more trust-worthy than another if neither have giant red flags?

WhiteWolf

Brucehankins No more than having a phone with a camera on it in the US. Somebody's always watching. Really, if you are on the internet in anyway, you have to understand you're sacrificing some of your privacy and data for utility or convince. Other than being Chinese, they haven't had anything that raises giant security red flags that I know of.

Brucehankins Nothing, we only have a choice to pick who can spy on us. Chinese or USA? Decision is up to you.

jppelt

Any thoughts on Waterfox? Has anyone ever tried it? I just downloaded Vivaldi and will give it another go. Seems heavy - too many options. I might be going down the rabbit hole but admit the notes feature kinda appeals to me - not that I've ever needed such an option in the past. We shall see. I'll try to use it exclusively for a week and see where it leads. Thanks @JoshStrobl

ryzee

jppelt I was curious about Waterfox too, although when I was looking into it late last year
it was about the time that it was sold to a corporation and there was all sorts of speculation and
suspicion that ensued so I stayed away from it. I really don't know the details of what happened and
I obviously wasn't interested in pursuing it but something maybe worth investigating before you decide.

Axios

jppelt Waterfox seemed to be ok was trying it out on deb install got where it wouldnt install (waterfox Problem) so i deleted it..lol then that system crashed. Then crashed my solus install on updates. But back to your question I think it was alright and it was being actively updated havent tried it for awhile not sure how its matured just looked at website seems still active I had no real problems they have an appimage https://appimage.github.io/Waterfox_Current/

downhill

jppelt I gave up on Waterfox when the developer was hired by a company to continue to develop the browser. I believe the company that hired him was an ad company. Ad companies and web browsers...not a good combination from a privacy perspective.

RobertK

Brucehankins I tried the newest version of Opera and didn't like it so uninstalled it.

Brucehankins

RobertK that's the beauty of choice. This thread got me thinking, am I missing out on something? I downloaded Brave and Vivaldi to give those a go.

ryzee

brent

Your reply is a good reminder to keep hardships that were in the past, in the past, and consider the here and now. Sage life advice, as well.

Tough to do sometimes. Your post struck me in a way that has nothing to do with computers at all. Well said.

jppelt

WhiteWolf I'm with you. The reason I do not or would not buy Lenovo - owned by the Chinese version of NSA. Not saying MS, Dell or anyone else doesn't allow backdoors or actively collects info. I have some, albeit limited, legal recourse in the US, none in China. Also, I just like when things are built (mostly) local - big fan of System76.

Axios Thanks..I might try the App. I've taken above recommendations and started testing Vivaldi for daily use on my laptop - right now, feels clunky. I've been using FF for what seems to be an eternity but also starts to feel clunky and there is always so much drama at the Mozilla foundation.

Well, until then, let's see what Vivaldi brings...

RobertK

Brucehankins Well you asked and I gave you my answer. Opera was a good browser, but to me it's gone downhill which is sad.

elfprince

I've been an ardent Firefox user for many years. No complaints. Since last week, I've been trying out Brave upon my wife's recommendation. Not bad, seems to use less memory. I do prefer FF layout though. Will see how it goes .... 😀

brent

elfprince Please report back. That whole Brave 'we will block an ad with one of our own ads' thing always creeped me out and rubbed me the wrong way, probably because I never understood it. I'm happy with FF but always been curious about Brave.

elfprince

brent Didn't notice any such things. but I did disable all nonsense in settings. 🤣

tomscharbach

I've been testing/evaluating the new Edge since April 2019, first on Win10, then Android, then iOS. Microsoft has done a good job of unGoogling the browser, and I'm satisfied that the Edge offers a reasonable level of privacy within the Microsoft ecosystem. Edge is still something of a work in progress, but all the basics are in place in the Win10, Android and iOS Stable builds, and I assume that Edge on Linux will get to that point in a matter of months.

I've been using Firefox as my primary browser for 15+ years but am willing to consider moving to Edge if and when a stable release is available on Solus. However, because my Solus install is a production install, I'm not interested in using any apps (including Edge) that Solus does not include in the repository. I've noticed that Solus includes various browsers (including Stable, Dev and Canary versions of Chrome) in the 3rd Party repository. Does anyone know whether Solus has any plans to do so with Edge?

JoshStrobl

tomscharbach Does anyone know whether Solus has any plans to do so with Edge?

It isn't redistributable and we have no plans on including it in Third Party (we're not accepting any new software in there). So Microsoft should probably support it as a snap.

tomscharbach

JoshStrobl

Thanks for the clarification, Josh. It is what I expected. Microsoft seems to be primarily interested in enterprise suppliers (Canonical, RedHat, SUSE) in this and all things Linux (e.g. WSL2, the MS repository). I don't expect them to go beyond .deb and .rpm releases unless they release as a Snap or Flatpak, I'll see what they do down the road, if anything.

JoshStrobl

tomscharbach Well, they provide an official snap for Visual Studio Code, no reason they couldn't for their other apps 🙂

jeremymolina

tomscharbach In one of the podcast I listen they invited some devs from Edge the reason they aren't shipping Edge to many distros, packages format, is because as this is still a Beta (it's actually more like an alpha) they would like not to have fragmentation in the start, more packages, more distros, more maintenance and developers or resources they will need.

They are not willing to afford this until there is an opportunity of demand and growth.

I truly understand their decision, Linux community has been really negatle about Edge coming here...

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