What Is Your Preferred Web Browser?

edivan

Chromium

stalebrim

one_good_eye As far as I know, the Solus build of Firefox has also telemetry off.

one_good_eye

stalebrim Yup you are correct I did check in a vm with a brand new download of solus and in Firefox settings it does say that for "this build data collection is disabled". But I like the peace of mind that data collection/telemetry isn't there in the first place. Also I do about:config changes to really make sure it is as secure as I can reasonably get. Here is where I found the settings to change in about:config https://restoreprivacy.com/firefox-privacy/ it is a good over all break down. I don't get bothered if your not interested in this kind of thing.

evert

one_good_eye
You are right. I just downloaded Waterfox. It's great. Thanks.

one_good_eye

evert Sure thing. I found that it "just works" like regular Firefox but has the needed amount telemetry to still work as needed. If they offered a bug report feature, like you can choose to manually send it or automatically, I am fine with that as long as there is an option to edit it if I need to, more then likely not going to edit the bug report but it would be nice. Telemetry wise there is something I am probably forgetting that would be a benefit to the app or os developer and still keep the privacy of the individual.

SouzaLinux

I use Google Chrome.

cynical13

Mostly Firefox (partly for the privacy, partly for the improved font rendering on my Windows machines).

I like Vivaldi and Opera, but Vivaldi still has some kinks to work out and Opera is missing a feature or two I like (and some worry about the new owners), but I'll use them from time to time. The speed dial is hard to beat and Opera is my favorite for handling bookmarks.

I'm keeping my eye on Brave. I like the browser overall, but I'm worried about how things will develop with their advertising model. I think it's an interesting idea, but I'm worried on how it will evolve over time. Not a bad browser though, with some other privacy apps installed.

3ImWeckla

Waterfox. previously i use Firefox, but of concerning privacy fiasco i have to switch to Waterfox.
Never reget that step till now.
Mozilla is not trustworthy. They spy on you secretly. Had enough of mozilla's hypocrisy.
Other than Mozilla, Google tells you honestly to collect and use your data (which of course is also a no go for me).
Therefore Waterfox was a "no-brainer" decision.

kyrios

3ImWeckla Mozilla is not trustworthy. They spy on you secretly. Had enough of mozilla's hypocrisy.

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3ImWeckla

kyrios : do a web search "Mozilla is not trustworthy" you'll find answers.
Always the same story , a free service is growing much, then they have to decide how to finance this (Devs, servers etc).
One way is get a paid service or they the service lives from donation or the sell your data.
But don't worry, google chrome is much worse.

kyrios

3ImWeckla Ok so no argument or facts...

Justin

kyrios Same for Chrome to be honest. Everything is speculation.

one_good_eye

I will not go to that extent currently and flat out say mozilla is not trustworthy sure there are somethings that might be questionable but that is for everyone to decide for them selves. That is why I choose Waterfox because I don't like some settings in Firefox but that is my choice, I will explain my reasons for my choice for anyone willing to read what I have wrote but I will not force you to use the same software that I use, I will suggest you at least take a look at it but that's it.

brent

For an 'untrustworthy' browser (my FF beef is simply aesthetics) it has the most secure addons and extensions of any linux browser I've used. Mostly crash-fee is nice, too.

Dial in the right combo and you surf pretty safely--compared to the herd-- if you believe the footprint investigator sites (whoer, panopticon etc).

I know nothing of Mozilla's politics or privacy, nor has my reading led me there, so I'm not making a judgement on that based on lack of research. In advanced settings I elected not to share any data with them. If they circumvent that, oh well.

The hardening required to become truly anonymous seems too much a chore if all your interests are is solus, football, rock and roll, your old lady, and keeping your car running. And football.

one_good_eye

I would go back to Firefox if the Waterfox project folded. I have not been a fan of data collection but I wouldn't mind using Firefox, partly because if I really want to remove the parts I don't like I could find some way to remove them or block if I want to.

brent In advanced settings I elected not to share any data with them.

I am fine with that. If you find what Firefox has for security as fulfilling for your needs that is great, I don't get picky, I might suggest anyone reading this at least look into Firefox, Waterfox, TOR if you want to go this route, or what you would consider secure. If interested in a Chrome alternative I have used Vivaldi, it has been stable for me, Chromium, stable just like Vivaldi in my experience.

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brent If they circumvent that, oh well.

if they did that they might aswell pack up and delete their project imo.

kyrios

Justin There is a main difference though.... One is open source and thus code can easily be audited, the other adds some proprietary blocks and has a business model largely based on leveraging user data.

So I fully agree that Mozilla is not perfect and doesn't always take the good decisions nor is always as transparent as it could (silently enabling some features for testing without the users knows unless they visit their blog), but what @3ImWeckla claims is just misinformation (fake news as would scream a guy with a ridiculous haircut) based at the best on some inaccurate info.
Also the option "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" which is one of the main criticism, is not enabled by default in Solus.

People quickly forget that Mozilla invest lot in privacy protection, they organize campaign, educate, sponsor many projects and they are the last offering an alternate engine to WebKit/Blink. So free criticism based on some nothing serious at the best or on lies (Mozilla finances & privacy chart are public and much easier to read than the ones of most other companies) are just harmful and would just help damaging the only alternative to the web engine monopoly.

Fatih19

[deleted] Like Windows 10 circumventing data collection.

brent

[deleted] "Microsoft arent hiding the fact that they do COMPLETE CONTINUOUS HOURLY data collection AND EVERY KEY LOGGED even if you disable it when you install."

Fixed it for you. Insert smiley face here 😀

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Fatih19 Most use firefox for the added power it gives people, be it plain ui customization or privacy for example - Windows is another story and haven't profiled themselves as privacy oriented exactly and dont quote me but i dont think Microsoft arent hiding the fact that they do some data collection even if you disable it when you install.

iirc the scale was: 3; everything, 2; a shitload or 1; just alot! /s

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brent 😂

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