XFCE install and Calmares Observations and Questions

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DJSupertel As far as I know the XFCE edition uses the standard XFCE compositor, so I guess the best bet is to try a live USB and see if it has tearing issues on your hardware.

WetGeek

brent gotta get rid of/remove from menu the xfce-screenshot.

What is your image of? In the Whisker menu on my system, there's only one Screenshot entry. Have you installed some other plugins or other additional software?

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WetGeek They installed gnome-screenshot to replace xfce-screenshot, but they haven't removed the menu entry for xfce-screenshot.

brent

The first two terminal entries are the same terminal (xfce-terminal). Got to get rid of one entry.

They are different entries. The first one points to the default terminal of the system and the second one points specifically to xfce-terminal.

brent

WetGeek What is your image of? In the Whisker menu on my system, there's only one Screenshot entry. Have you installed some other plugins or other additional software?

like stalebrim said, I am replacing the xfce-screenshot and didn't remove it yet.
PS---speaking of plugins, I've seen Thunar and even Whisker I think have some nice ones when I perused software center. to come. gotta work in budgie most of the day so won't be back to XFCE til tonight.

brent

[deleted] it was late so let me check it again. When I launched each terminal I clicked their 'about' and both said xfce-terminal. I'll try it again. I don't know the diff between default and system terminals but I like the terminal all the same.

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brent Yeah. The entry points to your default terminal, which is xfce-terminal.

WetGeek

brent I am replacing the xfce-screenshot and didn't remove it yet.

Understood. It didn't occur to me to install the GNOME version, but I've now done that. It's UI is very crude, compared to Xfce's but the delayed screenshot for a selected area works well. I'll keep that installed on my Xfce laptop until there's a fix available for the Xfce version. Thanks for helping with this issue.

Now ... if you just had a solution for the Bluetooth/keyboard issue I'm having, I'd be extremely happy! 🙂

brent

WetGeek I've got XFCE where I could spend two whole days in it including now. I think the Beta-bugs took me longer to dial it in than most. But it's solid.
I threw in the towel on making the panel work to my needs. I tried every variation. So Plank is back in my life, and that's fine. The panel will probably be good for must people's needs though.
I went back to my beloved Gedit instead of Mousepad but the house file manager, pdf reader, terminal, etc are all fine.
It's not Budgie, but Solus did something unique with it and I d0 enjoy working in XFCE.

brent

If anyone is a glutton they can corroborate a dev tracker bug report I filed this morning.
Flatpak or repo Epiphany (gnome-web) freezes/crashes my XFCE in every modality (terminal or menu icon). That's four hard boots today.
Eolie would not stay launched either. Of 3 browsers I've tried on XFCE, only Firefox works. I was looking for a super light browser but I can't get any to work. (Falkon would bring kwallet and a lot of stuff I don't want to bring into the Beta right now or I'd use it.)

Not much fun with XFCE this afternoon as far as making it a work station but there is always tomorrow. Rebooting into Budgie right now.

minh

Migrated /home from Budgies to Xfce and using it as my daily driver. No blocker until now. For browser, I install Edge manually from their rpm package.

brent

minh how do you install an RPM package on Solus? Is that easier than just getting the Edge flatpak?

I also got the edge Flatpak out of desperation. I'm afraid to walk on the dark side and I will probably never launch it after reading their privacy policy/eula. but it is a snazzy browser. they re-wrote chrome and it's better than chrome. I tried it once.

Edge not what I'd call lightweight by any stretch. firefox, chromium, brave, vivaldi, opera either.

for anyone following my XFCE misadventures I only got 1 out of 3 lightweight browsers to work in XFCE. Carpe Diem!
Yes, the butt-ugly Midori actually works as a lightweight browser. I was whining for a lightwweight browser than didn't wreck XFCE and got it on the third try! Except it's Midori. And it only stays in light theme. And with spell checker enabled it does not spell check.
I should be careful what I wish for🙂.
At least I didn't wish for Lynx🙁.

Startin to get the rhythm of XFCE. It's Beta for a reasons you might see here and there, but it's mostly complete. It's starting to grow on me.

elfprince

brent At least I didn't wish for Lynx

I always installed links, on my Free/OpenBSD pcs. links -G is quite simple and satisfying to use, displaying both graphics and text.

minh

brent how do you install an RPM package on Solus

I do it manually, of course. Just download the rpm package and extract the folders in correct location. I don't like flatpak that require to add extra layers to install edge flatpak. I feel better when using binary package directly, but just my feeling. Don't understand much how flatpak work 🙂

brent

elfprince Links and Lynx is a learning curve for sure with its shortcuts (like vim keybindings). I've used it. I liked being able to simply read a story and not worry about any other beacons or cookies etc but to tell you the truth I missed seeing stuff on any webpage.
Not until I saw your response., this moment, did I know there was a graphics prepresentation deal in the cli. that's interesting. am researching the -g command now.

WetGeek

brent I went back to my beloved Gedit instead of Mousepad

You could make life easier if you install Gedit as a default application. In the "Other" section of the Default Applications dialog, you could simply replace every occurance of "Mousepad" - there are lots of those - with "Gedit," since they're both text editors. That shouldn't take more than a minute or so. If you've already done that, then nevermind.

A change I made was to create a shortcut for "systemctl hibernate," and assign it to CTRL+H. Now when I'm through with the computer for the day, I can shut it down completely with CTRL+H, and continue the same session the next day.

WetGeek

brent Plank is back in my life

Plank entered my life the moment I found out that the panel didn't have - and couldn't have - an icon-only task manager. But Plank could fill that gap quite well. I still use the panel for its Menu, Workspace Switcher, and System Tray, but I don't think I could enjoy using Xfce without Plank.

brent

WetGeek

good lord 'others' is a mammoth beast. It changed the Gedits for me. I never set a default word processor. XFCE itself decided to split stuff up in between OnlyOffice and Libre. browser stuff, too, is split. I didn't make these decisions so I don't know if 'other' is guessing behavior or making it up or this is a bug?
No complaints, I love exploring.

edit:

what fresh hell is this? I have Caja?
🙂 it's an adventure!

brent

WetGeek
I have panel taking up a small bit of real estate in the lower right corner for the stuff I want to see as well.
As I said, I'm delighted where I have it.
Thanks for the tip about the 'Other' section---did not know.

let me ask you for some advice:
I don't know if I'm helping reporting XFCE bugs to the dev tracker or clogging up bandwidth. What's reproducible for me may not always be for someone else.

WetGeek

brent I don't know if I'm helping reporting XFCE bugs to the dev tracker or clogging up bandwidth.

Don't worry about that. If you enter it in the bug tracker, you've taken the first step towards getting it fixed. And if it's not really a bug, or it's already been fixed, it takes a team member just a few seconds to dispose of it as such.

On the other hand, if you don't report it, it may never get the attention of someone who can do something about it. Bandwidth is cheap. Bugs can be very costly, indeed.

brent

WetGeek OK, thanks for the response. I will cease being shy with my concerns. I have a couple things to report. appreciate it.

brent

WetGeek I'm in 3 straight days of XFCE. What is happening to me? I must be in a David Cronenberg movie...
...XFCE is robust for work and pleasure and mucking about in. I've tried a handful of XFCE's and all meh, but this one is growing on me.
..another thing of note: bugs (it's got 'em) don't deter me anymore because I just keep working around them instead of confronting them.

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