majamee

@DataDrake I understand that, but I really don't get why you and others all the time felt the need to correct me, without me arguing you would be in maintenance mode. In fact, I tried to clarify here multiple times, just have a look especially at all the "PS:" parts of my posts, but I felt not even noticed. Nevertheless, if someone goes the extra mile like @c432 did just to answer here to my post maybe then it is at least worth considering, that there might be some truth to what I stated here:

majamee I started the thread because to silent followers of your project it does matter how often you inform. Any project looses a lot of its transparency and trust IMHO if
the roadmap is outdated and noone seems to care to update it from time to time
the blog is not actively maintained since months
the ongoing development plans/ work isn't announced to the whole user base

So I would be happy, if there could be finally some constructive discussion about the actual topic without any finger-pointing

So what about an update to the roadmap which really removes the dates, but instead would use version numbers and link to the still open tasks for each of the planned projects?

c432 Roadmap is just a list of good wishes I'm afraid.

This what I was referring to and this could very well be a temporary phase due to your real life constraints, so also not speaking of the devil here.

DataDrake I just stuck to the original topic, the roadmap. Therefore I said in the very same post as well:
"Good to see the development is not staling". I am sorry for any misunderstandings. Please be so kind to read my posts completely as I am still not a native speaker and I might need more words to provide enough context.

Thing is "maintenance mode" aren't even my words. Also even if they were, my understanding is a little different: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_maintenance#History --> compare perfective maintenance.
Also the official communication channels did go pretty quite lately and I have to stand by that. So please don't be surprised about people asking about the status then. Also the unfair budige example of mine was originally brought up by @Harvey. I started the thread because to silent followers of your project it does matter how often you inform. Any project looses a lot of its transparency and trust IMHO if

• the roadmap is outdated and noone seems to care to update it from time to time
• the blog is not actively maintained since months
• the ongoing development plans/ work isn't announced to the whole user base

But it is okay, I will never say anything remotely in that direction again.

Thank you @EbonJaeger as I have to admit, I have never ever seen such tension when discussing about a project like I just experienced here and I think his input is very good. Especially https://discuss.getsol.us/d/2630/26

Have a good night everyone.

elfprince Fair enough, that did take a turn in a completely unforeseen direction. No hard feelings and please excuse if anything I said did hurt any feelings. Also not a native speaker.

So, short answer to my question:
No updated timeline for the roadmap aka done when its done and until then no improvement ideas for current 3rd party app implementation.

Harvey PS: When talking about facts, please check them yourself before pasting any random links for github. Did you really compare the numbers? E.g.: https://github.com/solus-project/budgie-desktop/graphs/contributors

ikeydoherty
2,209 commits 274,315 ++
vs.
JoshStrobl
167 commits 7,624 ++

So you are proving my point. I am happy to have a professional discussion anytime, but your reaction seems more guided by feelings than facts as it seems. Also to put it as simple as that, if one developer leaves a project it loses 1 dev in manpower, so the difference should be notable always.

DataDrake Thank you for your great work and good luck with your PhD thesis. I hope I haven't been disrespectful, because I am actually a fan of your work.

c432
Thanks for pointing that out, I am glad this project continues and I appreciate the job everyone is doing here, but that sums up my impression as well.

Also last blog post is from April https://getsol.us/blog/

EbonJaeger Good to see the development is not staling and the new forum is also nice, but it is a difference notable since Ikey is gone as he also did the project for a while pretty much full time. So understandable.

Thanks for all the input. I think this topic is really hopefully closed and addressed when a new version of software center is released.
Nevertheless I wanted to point out, that for me personally it is no issue at all with the browser, but I wanted to point out flaws in the user experience aka UX. It is common knowledge that there is more than 1 web browser out there, but I also get the strong feeling that a few of you cannot imagine how demanding people who rely on your tech support can be. E.g.: Tried already once to switch my mum to Firefox and explained it to hear patiently and made it as directly accessible as possible. A few weeks pass and I get a call from her telling me, that Google is deleted from her machine and she cannot access the Internet therefore.
I am a big fan of Linux and FOSS in general and like to convert a few people, as I have the feeling it is superior by now. Of course I can even write my own scripts and run them as CRON job from time to time. Nevertheless, if I don't have the feeling that being user friendly, especially to newcomers isn't part of the core philosophy of a project, I won't recommend it any more. Personally I love living on the bleeding edge, but not for the people who rely on my tech support from time to time. It needs to just work then, as I have other duties and limited time.

Sorry for the long post, think all I want to say is: Solus is a project with huge potential, but at least in its current state its focus doesn't seem to be to remove rough edges. This is fine for me, especially if the alternative is slowing down the project's pace, but thought a little UX feedback would be welcome.

@Scotty-Trees Thank you for your instructions. I am rather a fan of RSS feeds and for myself it is not even the problem, but as explained, this situation is what keeps me from recommending Solus as go-to Linux Distro for my not so tech-savvy friends & family #wouldyourmothergetyourinstructions

Thanks for the replies so far. I get it, real life comes first and all in all almost everything is working in a meaningful way for me. The only issue I have with the current generation of package manager/ software center the 3rd party app integration. It is frustrating that there is no option, that liberates the user from manually checking for updates.

What I mean is, e.g.:
If I install Google Chrome via 3rd party apps and there is a security update released to Chrome, I will not be notified, there is no auto-update, I just will continue running a potentially insecure piece of software until I open manually the software center and check for updates. Also it just triggers then an install without any progress or information about the update itself. This is the kind of UX which could really need some love.

Please don't get me wrong, not complaining, just explaining what keeps me so far from recommending Solus to friends and family. Not everyone reads changelogs after all Happy to brainstorm for minimal effort ideas how this could be improved as quickfix (e.g. a simple online service which compares at least weekly the hash of the latest offered version)

Hi dear Solus team,

thank you for your great work and for keeping development pace.
I am wondering though, whether it is possible for you to update the roadmap of yours:
https://getsol.us/solus/roadmap/

By now it seems pretty much outdated. I am especially curious about the new package manager "sol" and about the new software center. Any updates about that would be highly appreciated.

Thank you & best regards