bleh I simply wandered into the snakepit thinking I was safe!

If it is possible for you, you could have two pcs or laptops. One for everyday use, labelled 'Do not mess with me', and the other one for experimentation/testing, labelled 'Crash 'n Burn'. 😄

      bleh I simply wandered into the snakepit thinking I was safe!

      If I had a nickel for every time this has happened to me on my linux journey

      bleh e software center which is getting better and better and since this thread is on unstable packages appearing

      this I have not noticed. but I've been leaning on flatpaks lately.

      bleh I think it should be communicated, as the transition to serpent base should be widely known and also understood

      if I had to guess this will be a massive undertaking. communication, to me, has been 1000X better since Strobl & Co. ressurected Solus. What happened to you sounds anamolous. And I don't say that in jest--my only problems are the weird and rare ones myself...

      bleh Even after reading, searching, and learning some linux, only now am I starting to understand terminology like operating system, daemon, package, package manager, desktop environment, firmware, bios, etc.

      oh yeah I am still learning this stuff. but I don't expect any distro to have plain-speak tutorials on an app or package beyond the software center blurb. linux requires a bit of independent research sometimes. I read a handful of articles.videos for any driver I may want to install or any reckless undertaking (my specialty) that would jeopardize the OS, or software I want to try. you got to put yourself in the position not to be in the dark, I think. Or that's just what I've learned on this non-windows road.

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                brent It's not really a Linux thing, one can overwrite their system drive with CCleaner if they don't know what they're doing.

                    [deleted] When it comes time to destroy my own opearating system by accident, I prefer Gparted.

                        [deleted] that moment when you realize you wrote to dev/sda1 and not from /dev/sda1

                          [deleted] I don't remember if I ran it as root, could be.
                          Edit: You know what, I'm gonna join the big leagues and break debian!

                            bleh The packages are only "experimental" in the sense that the desktop environment / Solus edition they're building up to hasn't been released yet. Doesn't mean your computer will explode by installing them.
                            Now, if your system gets a bit untidy by installing random packages, that's on you and there's no way for the Software Center to prevent that.
                            All of that to say that I don't see what the issue is here.

                            • bleh replied to this.

                                Staudey I wouldn't really call it an issue, like you say, the computer is perfectly fine. I can't pinpoint what I did so it's not worth looking into. It's not about untidiness though, my wifi just stopped functioning correctly after a reboot. I was able to boot up my tails usb so everything's fine. The only "weird" thing that happened outside of that is bleachbit getting stuck and having 30gb of cache. It's a bit strange, but it's not a big deal, probably a very circumstantial thing.

                                    bleh gotcha. I just wasn't sure where one topic ended and the other began lol. It's not a big deal, especially since mods and split threads now.

                                      murbert Or a VM

                                      That's a pretty enticing idea for someone who speaks VM pretty fluently. If one were curious enough to create a Solus VM for experimenting with that DE -- raw as it is right now -- what DE should it be? The obvious choice would seem to be MATE, but I'd be interested in a second opinion, at least. And would it be obvious how to access and install the Xfce DE after the MATE VM (or some other VM) was created?

                                          EbonJaeger I'm confused, is this related to XFCE, or...?

                                          While you're here, I have a question that's definitely about Xfce. I created an extra Solus Budgie VM, intending to use it for exploring Xfce, such as it is now. I've fully updated it. I suspect that I would now need to install the Xfce DE components from the Software Center or the command line.

                                          What I don't know is, "what do I ask for"? And once they're present, will they appear as a second choice of session type on the login screen, as X11 and Wayland appear for Plasma? (And as i3 once appeared for Budgie?)

                                              WetGeek You would likely want everything in the XFCE Desktop section (desktop.xfce component). Also, a reminder that no configuration of the packages has been done yet, things may not work, no support yet, etc, etc. The session should theoretically appear in the dropdown of the login greeter. I don't know if anyone has actually gotten that far yet.

                                                  EbonJaeger I don't know if anyone has actually gotten that far yet.

                                                  Indeed. Thanks for your help with this. I realize that it's very early, that's why I mentioned I'd like to take a look at it, "such as it is now." And that's why I created an extra VM for the purpose, rather than using my existing Budgie VM.

                                                  UPDATE: I'm encouraged by what I've seen so far. Screen updating is very slow, but that's not unexpected.

                                                    If I'd been asked to rate Solus Xfce -- as it is now -- I'd give it a solid B+. I haven't been asked to do that, of course, and your mileage may vary, but curiosity is strong in this one. I can document a lot of functionality that is working quite well. Since I had no other plan in mind, I decided to approach it as I would another interesting distro that I was evaluating. This image represents the current state of Xfce on my laptop, installed over a Solus Budgie VM.

                                                    So far, I've been able to:

                                                    • Access the TRANSFERS USB drive that's mounted in a port on the VM's host
                                                    • Created 8 virtual desktops
                                                    • Copy my bashrcAdditions files in my /home directory - macros that make using BASH more enjoyable
                                                    • Change the background to a picture of a Pacific NW hike from a few years ago
                                                    • Install micro, nfs-utils, aisleriot, kshisen, gnome-mahjongg, and Vivaldi-stable
                                                    • Modify /etc/fstab to include my NAS shares
                                                    • Modify ./.bashrc and /root/.bashrc to load my macros
                                                    • Create symlinks to replace folders in my /home directory with NAS shares mounted in /mnt
                                                    • Configured Thunderbird with two email accounts
                                                    • Configured Vivaldi and sync'd it, creating 50+ shortcuts on its start page
                                                    • Configure settings for Spider software, Shisen-sho, and Gnome-mahjongg solitaire games

                                                    I experienced no errors and no unexpected issues throughout. There were purely DE activities that ran slow, as I expected, but no slowness at all when it came to executing applications. I'm very impressed.

                                                    Great job, team! I know there's still lots to do, but I could actually use Solus Xfce as a daily driver -- as-is.