Where did I pick up these two mutts?

brent

and how do I get rid of?

Did a big application purge today of the stuff I never used. Housekeeping.
Elementary Config and GTK Node Editor?
eopkg info and eopkg sr = NADA ZIP ZILCH.
Not flatpaks, not appimages, not in software center, not in eopkg, both have binaries, both are installed, both are in budgie menu.
Questions: 1) What are these programs? 2) How do I uninstall them when eopkg tells me they don't exist?

edit: thanks

infinitymdm

Node editor is something to do with the GTK stack.

Likewise, Elementary Config appears to be part of the EFL stack. brent Do you by chance have Terminology installed? I'd bet that's where that app comes from.

alfisya

I got node editor too after latest update

brent

infinitymdm

No not currently but evidently I did...I do remember auditioning terminals for a day back then......BUT eopkg did not ask me if I wanted to remove additional packages/deps because I always hit Y I never hit no----I remember these things.

Thanks for the positve ID.....but Solus (eopkg, software center) denies knowing this character and denies it exists under these two names. It's possible Solus identifies this package with no Elementary and no Config....but what's it real name I wonder?

Axios: "I hate the weird ones."

EbonJaeger

elementary_config is from the EFL package, in order to configure parts of EFL. I have no idea about Node Editor, but what I would do is start it, then open System Monitor and look for the program executable in the list of running programs. Then you can do eopkg sf whatever_the_name_is to find out what installed package it belongs to.

brent

EbonJaeger Ebon, the EFL libraries are a solus default package, so I probably shouldn't mess with that, correct?

will try the System Monitor trick later---that is so cool. Did not ever know I was looking at true package/sub-package names when it shows the drop-down trees. A like for that new tool in my modest arsenal.

Likewise, if Node Editor is a now-critical part of the Gnome Stack I may not mess with that either (?).

infinitymdm

brent EFL libraries are a solus default package, so I probably shouldn't mess with that, correct?

I don't believe this is true. EFL is a set of libraries including application and GUI toolkits (sort of like GTK and Qt). You should be fine removing it, so long as you don't have any EFL apps installed. Of course, eopkg or software center should warn you if you have other things installed that depend on EFL.

brent

addendum for above^^^^^
=--engaged in extensive debugging of an app with r brogan at dev tracker recently (spring?) and installed numerous cli and devel packages that I probably didn't remove. But don't know how to find.

Some years ago in the Ikey era I asked if there was a way to audit (see a list with your eyeballs) only cliprograms in order to see what you can get rid of (after discerning native vs . you installed it, that is). The answer was No. I wonder if that's changed?

brent

a story in pictures. I'm tired!

ok

ok

third package ^^ is installed. the others are NOT installed. Assume node editor lives in libwebkit-gtk41?
further; brought in 7-20?

sorry for the PITA questions; once one commits to a serious housecleaning there is no looking back🙂

infinitymdm

brent The package that introduced this change turns out to be libgtk-4. Thanks for the helpful screenshots, by the way.

You can see the changes to the installed files here: https://dev.getsol.us/source/libgtk-4/change/master/pspec_x86_64.xml
Note the addition of gtk4-node-editor.

If the menu entry for that is really bothering you, you can probably delete the desktop file at /usr/share/applications/org.gtk.gtk4.NodeEditor.desktop to get rid of it. Of course this won't persist past updates, and eopkg will claim that the package is broken. You'd probably be better off removing it using something like libremenu.

brent

infinitymdm outstanding to know. will try rm tomorrow and see what happens. Might've been part of all that debugging stuff installed discussed above. Thanks for your help with this.

brent

infinitymdm wowsers great info. Will dump the EFL tomorrow.

As for libgtk-4 if fhis is part of Solus-proper then anything part of solus-proper is fine---the menu entry is automatically a non-concern now.
Thanks to you Operation Debris Removal almost safely complete!

brent

Removal of EFL removed Elementary Config.
One down.
Question for the Team: libgtk-4, libgtk-41, and Node Editor ---all three of these are necessary in Solus infrastructure, correct?
If you could kindly answer that then post will be solved. Thank you.

Staudey

libgtk-4 is an important part of the Budgie and GNOME desktops, so you shouldn't remove it. We may see about potentially removing that node-editor though, since it's not really useful for the average person (I'd say without looking much into it)

brent

Staudey my work here is done, then, thank you🙂 .
Kindly marked 'solved.'

Staudey

@brent Update: Finally got to this item on my ToDo list and pushed a change to the unstable repository that moves gtk4-node-editor from the main libgtk-4 package to the libgtk-4-demos subpackage, where it belongs.

brent

Staudey oh yeah---that means that eventually I canrm the gtk node editor package safely?

brent

righteous. thanks for the update

Staudey

brent You don't have to do anything. The gtk4-node-editorbinary will automatically removed from your system as it is no longer part of the (required) libgtk-4 package.

brent

Staudey outstanding