Budgie 10.6

brent

WetGeek I never say never to Plasma. I think it's beautiful. Without veering thread too much 🙂 I will say what's kept me away from Plasma is that for every one package update in Budgie there are 4 in KDE. Everytime I've installed a KDE application the dependencies seem so excessive (compared to what I'm used to.) Having triple/quadruple files than I already have is my impression of Plasma, whether that impression is right or wrong.
It's a very coveted DE and someday, maybe soon, I will visit.

elfprince

brent That is my impression as well. Beautiful, but not light.

WetGeek

elfprince That is my impression as well. Beautiful, but not light.

Because this "Plasma is so HUGE" myth is so ubiquitus, I thought I should reveal the truth.

These are the relative actual sizes for the VMs I host with my laptop. You might find the smallest of those a little bit of a surprise.

brent

EbonJaeger ok that was the story, I remember. Whenever that topic was brought up I always remember Josh would get tense and mutter something like "it's my goal to build a file manager in my own image that does what I think a file manager would do." I always wanted to see that happen.

edit: me missing this icon freedom is just a 'you don't know how good you got it til it's gone" thing for me. you and @WetGeek: yeah I still whine about it🙂 no doubt about it.

elfprince

WetGeek Good point. I heard however of KDE's complex settings possibilities, and that is not for me. 😁

brent

WetGeek I figured base installs would be similar until one starts installing stuff, but I also concede 'good point.' It appears a small footprint. I've never heard the myth you refer to, just anecdotal observation of various it/rm of packages over the years and what it involved that formed my impression.

SOLUSfiddler

With Plasma I tend to get lost in the abundance of settings possibilities although I consider myself a person who likes and knows how to handle his computer.
That clickophany called Plasma turns me off it every time I'm giving it another try.
Budgie? Liked it from the start and still do. I can live with a few small missing things that I would most likely find in another DE like Clickophany. But I don't need them desperately. Can do without. Over.

Harvey

Okay everyone, topic reminder: This thread is about Budgie 10.6, if your post is not about that release do not post it here. If you see a see a potential topic unrelated to Budgie and would like to discuss it further please create a new thread.

Thank you for understanding.

tomscharbach

Ubuntu Budgie announced that it will be moving to Budgie 10.6 in the upcoming LTS 22.04 release:

I will be very interested in looking at this implementation when it is released, because I'm interested in seeing whether the Solus Budgie and Ubuntu Budgie builds converge, and if so, how closely. I run Ubuntu Budgie 21.20 in a Gnome Box at present (for purposes of comparison with Solus Budgie), and will use that version and the 22.04 release version for comparison between the two Ubuntu implementations, and then compare Solus's 10.6 implementation with Ubuntu Budgie's 10.6 implementation.

@EbonJaeger Do the Mutter issues also affect Solus's implementation?

EbonJaeger

tomscharbach Can you clarify what Mutter issues?

tomscharbach

EbonJaeger Can you clarify what Mutter issues?

Other than what fossfreedom mentioned in his post on the Ubuntu Budgie forum ("... waiting on Canonical to complete the migration steps of ... Mutter before it will be allowed into the release pocket (i.e. budgie-desktop has a dependency of mutter ..."), I can't. I'm hoping that the issue fossfreedom mentioned is unique to Ubuntu and does not affect Solus.

EbonJaeger

tomscharbach Oh. I don't think he means any issue per se, just that they have a pretty rigid process and timeline for when updates (like a new major release like Mutter 10) have to be done by.

Lucien_Lachance

@EbonJaeger i suppose theres no way to sneak this in early? it would be a massive improvement for me

tomscharbach

Lucien_Lachance i suppose theres no way to sneak this in early?

I don't know how far out 10.7 is likely to be (10.6 is scheduled to come to Solus 3/18) but, as much as I would like to have this feature, upgrading to Budgie unstable -- assuming that's even possible for users outside the project -- strikes me as a good way to make my life miserable.

murbert

Lucien_Lachance With this I'll be able to uninstall Plank. Add fractional scaling (next Friday I think) and Budgie will be complete in my opinion.

EbonJaeger

Budgie 10.6 is now in the Unstable repository. For the best experience, I would recommend restarting your computer after updating, or at minimum, logging out and back in. Have fun!

Lucien_Lachance I don't really want to commit to it one way or the other at the present time. We'll see what things look like a bit in the future. 🙂

sangheeta

Budgie 10.6 here, 2 little things:

Some icons in the new Budgie Control Center are "out of theme" (papirus here). (?)

Desktop notification doesn't look good, it's like a notification inside another one, and maybe the shadow is less shadow than before:

EbonJaeger

sangheeta Some of the control center icons use custom icons. This appears to be from upstream GNOME Control Center.

I just pushed an update to the branding, changing the default theme to Materia, to match the recommendation and vision of upstream Budgie. The padding issue has been reported, but it looks like a theme issue and Plata appears to no longer be maintained.

Apologies for not doing that before, and for any inconveniences with switching themes. I don't use Plata myself and forgot about it.

Thank you for the testing and feedback!

WetGeek

EbonJaeger I just pushed an update to the branding

Do you happen to know if the virtual desktops are still limited to just 8? That was one of the issues that sent me to Plasma after using Budgie for a long time.

alfisya

EbonJaeger The padding issue has been reported, but it looks like a theme issue and Plata appears to no longer be maintained.

That's disapointing. I got used to Plata-Noir and end up liking it very much.

tomscharbach

EbonJaeger it looks like a theme issue and Plata appears to no longer be maintained.

I've noticed, testing other Budgie implementations (e.g. Ubuntu Budgie) in VM's, that Plata-Noir is no longer offered as an option (e.g. Ubuntu Budgie 20.04 offers the Plata-Noir theme but Ubuntu Budgie 21.10 does not). Available Ubuntu Budgie 21.10 themes (e.g. Pocillo) seem washed out in comparison to Plata-Noir.

I did not realize that Plata-Noir was no longer maintained. The Budgie project will have to do the best it can with available themes, I guess, but it is sad news to be losing Plata-Noir.

EbonJaeger

WetGeek I'm afraid nothing has changed in that regard. Sorry.