Native Telegram stopped working after last week's updates

brent

pomon so telegram-desktop is a component/dep/part of telegram? Is that what I'm seeing?
I thought binary=telegram-desktop and package name=telegram but they were, you said, identical entities. Unless I'm seeing all wrong

nathanpainchaud

brent telegram-desktop is indeed the name of the binary program that is installed when you install the package telegram. So they're not really the same thing, but one comes with the other. But really at this point it's just semantics.

brent

nathanpainchaud I got it thank you. I always strive for accuracy so I always want to know.
elfprince yay! at the end of the day some debris got in your way

elfprince

brent @WetGeek , I followed the purge, dc, rmo and reboot. All is well now and Telegram is working again.

Thanks to all who pitched in. And, yes, I knew from start that telegram is the name of package and telegram-desktop is the name of the binary. 😆

Case closed.

elfprince

UPDATE: As of this morning's (Saturday), the same issue resurfaced. Native telegram refuses to start up. Same error message in terminal as above. I am not going to keep chasing my tail, but instead will use the flatpak version until native telegram is fixed. Lucky we have options. 😄

nathanpainchaud

elfprince I suspect your issues with Telegram are specific to your setup, because I have native Telegram installed here, and it's been running fine in the last few days.

pomon

There is still a download option wget -O telegram.tar.xz https://telegram.org/dl/desktop/linux
Unpack tar xf telegram.tar.xz
Use: Double-click Telegram
Alternatively, add through menuelibre to the Start menu

elfprince

nathanpainchaud That is good to hear.

brent

nathanpainchaud could be. i have camera/location/microphone forced off in budgie system settings. but zoom can get around it. other things cannot. some apps have to ask and get exceptions because of my policy and some apps just hit the wall and won't function. elfprince maybe its something like that I wonder? "lucky we have options" I say that all the time, too🙂

elfprince

brent It just stopped working, got 'fixed' using steps described above, and stopped again the next day (today) on a fresh boot with the same symptoms. I use it all the time, so for me it is more important to find another working good source, than bang my head against the wall trying to fix the native one.
My 2 cents: ALWAYS have a backup plan, because you never know.. 😀

brent

elfprince oh yes. when flatpak zoom died (a necessary part of my life) I grabbed the appimage and built from targz source so I had two backups. You never know is right

elfprince

brent I confess, I do have telegram installed on my mobile devices as well, but I prefer to use the desktop pc with the big screen. 😆

WetGeek

elfprince I confess, I do have telegram installed on my mobile devices as well, but I prefer to use the desktop pc with the big screen.

I feel the same way about email. It's there, in case I ever need it in an emergency, but I can't imagine why anyone would choose to read and answer emails on a tiny screen, with an even tinier keyboard.

elfprince

WetGeek Exactly! Who is the keyboard made for, I wonder. Not human hands for sure.

brent

elfprince WetGeek add me to the desktop-is-king user. Most of the world is happy with something tiny as their control center (a member of my family sold her laptop and cancelled her internet service claiming "my whole life is on my phone anyway"). I'm the opposite. I am not of the generation where I could watch a tv show or movie on a cell phone that is for sure.

WetGeek

brent "my whole life is on my phone anyway"

I know what you mean. My granddaughter eats lunch with her phone in one hand and a sandwich in the other. She's gotten really good at that. And her phone is tiny, even by smartphone standards.

elfprince

WetGeek Did she ever get confused and tried to take a chunk out of the phone? 🤣

WetGeek

elfprince Did she ever get confused and tried to take a chunk out of the phone?

Not yet, but one of these days ...

George

if i'm not mistaken, this commit help to resolve this issue https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/pull/23897/commits/8ad7497b17d32e28c363a4babf116f83f397fca0

elfprince

George Are you saying that fix is on the way?

noise617

I have the same problem on Budgie Solus:

user@m700 ~ $ telegram
bash: telegram: command not found
user@m700 ~ $ telegram-desktop
<jemalloc>: Error in dlsym(RTLD_NEXT, "pthread_create"). Cannot enable background_thread

(telegram-desktop:35056): Telegram-WARNING **: 17:22:31.633: Application was built without embedded fonts, this may lead to font issues.
Aborted (core dumped)

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