Staudey I think that should be "Demonstrating a pattern of behavior in violation of the Code of Conduct", if I'm not mistaken.

Thanks. Corrected in the doc (not PDF).

      JoshStrobl When I said 'stay ahead of' I thought you guys were taking lawyer advice or business advice, but if it's something you always had in the works and wanted to get on it, then all the better.

      giladfrid009 as long as their is no Off-Topic area for that i agree😉! BUT threads do come up open-mindedly about the role of digital life and hardware in an environmental/sustainable context and I find those conversations educationally fascinating. and usually "inviting and enjoyable".
      Lots of brilliant minds at this place, I really enjoy it.

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          Yeah, i'm gonna take the side of probably everyone in this community. This is a great move and for me, it helps not only the distro, but the entire community. The text is pretty complete to me, i didn't saw any issues.

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          I read this post for a long time ago, but decided to leave my reaction only now. It seems to me that any rules of the community are important, but the task of such rules is to raise the culture of discussion and dialogue. In this sense, punishment should correct the guilty, which in some sense makes the rules of the community related to the penitentiary system. It seems to me that it is important to determine the method of punishment (temporary or permanent blocking on the forum), the terms of punishment and the time frame for detecting the incident. On the idea of ​​the committee, I am rather against it, since any case in the community is a lesson for everyone. The geography of the community covers the whole world, everyone was brought up in their own traditions, with their most important philosophical categories. When analyzing any case in public, everyone should endure for themselves the norm of a certain behavior and not repeat the mistakes of the other. Publicity will help to solve the case most correctly and prevent a large number of misconduct by other users. I wanted to convey the idea as accurately as possible, but I wrote this post in Russian (I really live in Russia), I learn English as an additional language, but I wrote this post with the help of a translator: the accuracy of the wording is very important to me

            George Thank you for your thoughts. I completely disagree with the notion that cases should be handled in public. That not only results in the reporter on an issue being known to the wider community (which would lead to less likelihood of an incident being reported in the first place out of concern over what others may think, "retribution", etc.) but the individual(s) on the receiving end of the report as well (when it may in fact not be a violation of a CoC or may be a situation that can be handled amicably without involvement from everyone).

            An incident being handled in public rather than handled privately through proper channels additionally puts an unnecessary pressure on the decision-making, evidence gathering, and communication processes to be done in an expedient manner, which may result in details being overlooked or decisions be made in haste.

            There is a very good reason why human resource departments at companies resolve these matters in private. There is a good reason why larger open source projects and communities handle this in private as well (my proposed process being heavily inspired / lifted from Django, as an example). I understand your opinion that it being in public might improve the transparency, but this is one of those places IMO where transparency can have demonstrative downsides that I wouldn't feel comfortable having. I want folks to be comfortable reporting issues and knowing that everyone in the process is treated fairly, decisions are being made responsibly, etc.

              popcornkernelbrokemyDE Best of luck in your adventures.

              P.S. Have fun finding an operating system that doesn't already have a Code of Conduct (we already have our community guidelines and this is a proposal for an expansion on it). Arch has one. Fedora has one. openSUSE has one. Manjaro has one. Ubuntu has one. etc. Engagement in any community comes with certain expectations. Ours is no different.

                  Some people don't realize, but we're expected to follow a code of conduct or a set of rules everywhere in this world, even dark and illegal places has their own code of conduct, and an according punishment.
                  Having a minimum age limit, implies this place is not safe for the young ones, for what they may see/read, not that the grown ups are capable of being mature.

                  Also, not related to this forum, but I like the idea of incentivizing the kids to learn about Operating Systems and coding in linux...

                    YuriTheHenrique Also, not related to this forum, but I like the idea of incentivizing the kids to learn about Operating Systems and coding in linux...

                    I agree completely. In the comment I made above, I was pointing out that the poster was acting like a petulant child.

                    In fact, years ago when I was teaching CS classes in our local college, I got permission for my young son to audit one of my classes on C. No cost, and no academic credit, of course, but he learned a lot. And a few years later he was working for Microsoft.

                    The younger we can get them started, the better. My son was learning C when most of his friends were just playing video games.

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