tomscharbach In one of the podcast I listen they invited some devs from Edge the reason they aren't shipping Edge to many distros, packages format, is because as this is still a Beta (it's actually more like an alpha) they would like not to have fragmentation in the start, more packages, more distros, more maintenance and developers or resources they will need.

They are not willing to afford this until there is an opportunity of demand and growth.

I truly understand their decision, Linux community has been really negatle about Edge coming here...

      brent Nano-Adblock was an fork of ublock the reason nano-defender is still listed it works with ublock
      https://www.ghacks.net/2020/10/16/time-to-remove-nano-adblocker-and-defender-from-your-browsers-except-firefox/
      But I would remove both if anyone has it installed!!!! I just went back to Ublock without issue Used it for years went to Nano used it for years until now. I had issuess with facebook but from reading above site I know why but not sure if it was unloading from memory as computer runs better now and i havent done anything else. Sure I am safe now..But all was strange. (Haha if i could read sometimes didnt notice that was same link solarmass posted..lol)

        JoshStrobl I'm using Vivaldi now. F2 function is killer - then again, I like the Albert app too. A little overwhelming at first but the tiling, notes, and everything else just 'fits.' I removed Firefox and Brave. Stopped distro hopping with Solus. Stopped browser hopping with Vivaldi. Thanks!

          jeremymolina Thanks for the information about the podcast. I agree with Mcrosoft's decision.

          Unless you heard something to the contrary in the podcast, though, I doubt that Microsoft will expand release beyond .deb and .rpm packages once a Stable verison is released, unless it does so by issuing Snap/Flatpack Stable releases.

          Like you, I suspect that very few Linux users will be interested in Edge, unless the users are operating in a mixed W10/Linux environment, most likely in a business or enterprise environment. Accordingly, I can't think of a good business reason why Microsoft would move beyond the business/enterprise customer base (Canonical, RedHat, SUSE) with respect to Edge on Linux. The cost/benefit just isn't there.

          I like Edge, through, so I'll hope for a Snap or Flatpak release in time.

              tomscharbach and jeremymolina -

              this conversation regarding the business end of how these things work was interesting, thank you both.
              I think at the end of the day any Linux opposition to Edge will be split regarding "is it linux functional or buggy?" vs. philosophical. Personally I'm the second one but to act on principal is a devalued and aniquated thing these days.

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                  Wow, so much postings. So Iet me put in my two cents.
                  No one says anything about privacy when surfing in the net. It's the core business of Google, all (un)social media platforms to gather as much metadata as they can get from you. And M$ is one of those as well.
                  a browser should show you the tracking activities when you open some site.

                    [deleted] I don't subscribe to your point of view ecause it completely lacks nuance: A major difference between Google and Microsoft is that Google business model is based on the monetization of personal data while Microsoft incomes comes from selling subscriptions and licenses. The biggest problem regarding Privacy with Microsoft is that it that it openly collaborate with governments and grant them access to personal data without controlling if their request is legitimate or not.

                        [deleted] kyrios Like you said, Google earns it's revenue primarily off of advertising and Microsoft is building around recurring revenue packages. Two very different business models that take differing approaches to data privacy. It also seems to me that the companies like Google, Facebook, and others are always one step ahead of the browsers. Cookies are blocked, it can break a web page, or they have other ways to perform digital fingerprinting. It seems like you have to go to great lengths to obtain any small amount of anonymity.

                        Off-topic, I think an option that should be discussed is data portability and the right for the product (us) to monetize that information.

                              Brucehankins Anonymity online is a lure. A good practice is to consider that everything you post on the net is public. This being said, it is not hard to configure some mitigations. Blocking ads, tracking and 3rd party cookies, running social networks in containered tabs, not using facebook/google/etc. account to login everywhere, isn't hard to do.
                              You can go one step forward and block refferers, CDN, etc... replace yous ISP DNS but DNS that don't keep logs and possibly implement DNSSec, use a VPN, etc... Up to you to decide up to where you'd like to go.

                              By the way this isn't very different from the real world... Nowadays most payments are electronics, people have loyalty cards, you can't book annonymous flight tickets, CCTV systems operate in many places, radars on the roads, etc.

                                Brucehankins the companies mentioned live from targeted advertising, the more you tell about yourself, the better the advertising for each individual, therefore, tell about yourself as little as possible, always think about what I'm going to put on the www---- I don't need Edge my FF serves me well

                                  WetGeek ...there's very little chance that the CCP is interested in my browsing data... You'd be surprised.

                                    jppelt I gave up on Waterfox when the developer was hired by a company to continue to develop the browser. I believe the company that hired him was an ad company. Ad companies and web browsers...not a good combination from a privacy perspective.

                                      Harvey Interesting...I downloaded the browser for my Debian installs from the Opera site, which is located in Norway. I assumed that the browser was now under the Opera company, not the Chinese company.

                                      Edit: Well, now I know. According to a Wikipedia entry, most of the company is Chinese owned. Oh well, it was nice while it lasted. Like WetGeek, I'm removing it from all of my devices.

                                        Solarmass ...twice he says "but it's not vivaldi" thus not recommending it. But at least he wasn't obscuring his bias. And he was thorough. What I like about it is the warts and all honesty more or less. My favorite of a few memorable sentences was "Unsurprisingly the default search engine provided by Edge is Bing. "🙂 I didn't love it and I didn't hate it is the sum--but at least that reviewer dug somewhat deep and listed a lot of positives.

                                        @JoshStrobl? my American word "favorite" gets underlined now! This is brand new! I love it. My spell check prefers "favourite." Is this a consequence of the Flarum thing today, or just a coincidental thing with Firefox and language packs on the same day? No complaint, it's awesome it sees me an ocean away, like I'm on 'holiday'🙂

                                            brent ...twice he says "but it's not vivaldi" thus not recommending it.

                                            Well, he is from Vivaldi team

                                                brent
                                                It is a result of learning English, welcome to the rest of the world. 😛

                                                Now if only you could learn to use the metric system and use dd/mm/yyyy