What is your favorite mail client?

jrsilvey

jrsilvey Still, I have two main email accounts and Mailspring's Free version would give me (literally) everything I wanted in an email client. I still won't use it. Mailspring requires users to log in to the Mailspring Client.. This allows your email accounts to sync anywhere you login to the client which is far to much of a security risk IMO.

Update:

I logged in two Outlook email accounts through Mailspring. I -love- the interface. I was able to do this -without- needing to login to use Mailspring. There was a "Skip This Part" button that I was able to hit and allowed me to add my emails without login in to do so.

Take it for what you will.. Geary is what I have been using and I have over 10 email accounts logged in there. It looks like a dinosaur but it works well.

I can honestly say that it will be difficult for me not to use Mailspring though. It just looks so much better. For a micro second I considered just routing all of my email addresses through my Outlook account before I realized.. my entire reason for leaving Windows was to get away from Microsoft. Leaving Windows to then go and forward all my email accounts through Outlook brings me closer Windows than at any time since actually running Windows.

What is the point of that?

Hrm.

Why hasn't anyone worked on retheming Evolution? Geary? Where are the Open Source foundations that would really take the lead on something like this?

After the 2020 election I made a conscious decision to move away from politics and towards technology but my strengths lie in my network of politically involved people. An email client is really an important part of any OS ecosystem. @JoshStrobl @DataDrake do you, or anyone else reading this, have any idea where to start when it comes to some kind of Open Source Foundation that sets standards? Something that isn't Mozilla, or Red Hat, that doesn't have a vested interest in setting protocol standards because it benefits their products and services. Red Hat does amazing work for the Open Source community, unparalleled work, but part of the reason we have the whole .rpm vs .deb issue with Linux is because Red Hat had a big hand in choosing protocols and worked against embracing .deb.

I did a few searches.. the OpenGov Foundation is similar to what I am looking for but isn't really what I am looking for. Any ideas?

DataDrake

jrsilvey I'm the last person to ask. I almost always use webmail and work email is exchange, everything else is Gmail. I'm too pragmatic to get caught up in the politics of FOSS. I use what works for me.

nathanpainchaud

jrsilvey Some limitations/issues you cited about Mailspring were true at one point, but are outdated now.

Mailspring requires users to log in to the Mailspring Client

It is true that it required to create a Mailspring ID at one point to use it, but since version 1.9.0 released back in April, this is now optional, like you discovered for yourself.

It supports Exchange but needs IMAP enabled to work properly.

That is sadly still true. I tried setting up my Exchange university account to work with the Exchange protocol, but I had some issues. It does work flawlessly through IMAP, but I know that is not an alternative accessible to everyone.

It limits the amount of email accounts you can add to 1 or 2

I don't know where you got your information about that limit, but it used to be at 4 accounts for the free version, but it seems to be yet another restrictions they did away with earlier this year. Personally I have 4 accounts synced with Mailspring with no issues, using the free version. Even with over 10 accounts, you should be able to sync them all in.

It looks far better than Evolution.

Mailspring's Free version would give me (literally) everything I wanted in an email client.

I agree on both counts! Once I discovered Mailspring, I wasn't able to go back to other email clients!

Given what your issues were with Mailspring, I really think you should give it another try following the updates earlier this year 😉

jrsilvey

nathanpainchaud Given what your issues were with Mailspring, I really think you should give it another try following the updates earlier this year

I made a post directly after the one you quoted..

jrsilvey Update:

I logged in two Outlook email accounts through Mailspring. I -love- the interface. I was able to do this -without- needing to login to use Mailspring. There was a "Skip This Part" button that I was able to hit and allowed me to add my emails without login in to do so.

Go look at the entire thread.

MailSpring is everything I could want. It's beautiful.. and I am seeing change and I like what I see.

I am very interested in the fact that Mailspring is restarting development on Nylas Mail! It's what MailSpring is based off of and is supposed to be a free and open source version.

noise617

I use Gnome Evolution.

moore-bryan

jrsilvey Thanks for that article and I'm intrigued... Maybe time to go try and break some things. ;-)

jrsilvey

DataDrake Totally valid stance.. never hurts to ask though. 😃

moore-bryan

Tried out the DavMail connector and Mailspring; what an interesting solution & a beautifully designed mail client!

While playing around with it, though, I found it missing a feature, which (sadly) makes it a "hard no" for me: there's no ability to move emails between accounts. I'm sure it's a very specific need of mine that few others share, but on a regular basis I need to reply to an email sent to one account with another account. Evolution can do that; unfortunately, Mailspring cannot.

WetGeek

moore-bryan I need to reply to an email sent to one account with another account

That's trivial to do with Thunderbird. When you reply to an email, there's a drop-down list of addresses representing all the supported email accounts, with the original address defaulted, as it's most often the one you'll want to use. But you can choose the "from" address to be from any of your existing accounts.

It's an example of the kind of feature you don't know you need until the first time you need it.

jrsilvey

moore-bryan

Thanks for trying out my suggestion.. I appreciate it and Im glad you liked Mailspring even if you decided not to use it.

My suggestion would be to pay attention to the getmailspring.com website and pay attention to their open-source Nylas project. It will be based on the same code and will have a huge community of devoted users when it comes back. You might be able to suggest that as a feature and use Nylas instead. Same developers working on both projects AFAIK.

moore-bryan

Completely agree, @WetGeek; however, I definitely fall into the camp of not particularly liking the design of Thunderbird and, frankly, too lazy to go theme-hunting...

jrsilvey

moore-bryan frankly, too lazy to go theme-hunting...

Opening Thunderbird ALWAYS ends up with me spending hours devoted to theming and extension hunting. I -hate- wasting my time like that.

[deleted] Anyone liking the new UI in thunderbird 91?

I had -no- idea about version 91.. how can I install it and try it out if it isn't in the repo?

[deleted]

Anyone liking the new UI in thunderbird 91? 😃
Is is not implemented as heavily as in Firefox but its looks cool to me.

moore-bryan

I haven't installed that yet, @[deleted]; anyone care to weigh in on why the repos only seem to have 78? Is it because of something like "lts" status?

[deleted]

moore-bryan you can get thunderbird 91 directly from Mozilla's website,thats what i did. it is yet to be updated to 91 on most repos.

moore-bryan

I installed it, too, and will play around a bit... I'm just not quite sure it's "better" than Evolution...

jppelt

One of my favorite things about Thunderbird is the 'unified' viewing option. I also really like how easy it is to transfer emails around and, better yet, pull a select few into my local folder. Like @WetGeek , the more time passes, the less I want to share; the less I want to be a commodity for the big tech - though in some ways Mozilla is looking more and more like a big tech as it seeks a 'third' way from the largess of Google advertising. There is no perfect answer. Only the answer that works best for you. I might be going a little too deep down the rabbit role, purchasing a Pine Phone and loading PostMarket OS (Posh but want to get use to SXMO)...the goal is to rid myself of Apple. Not likely to happen with entire family eating turkish delights in their walled garden. I digress...

MattX

Since I have only one email account and I use Gmail (please don't laugh) a Brave browser external web app opening in it's own window (is it called SSB?) works for me. Otherwise I would use Thunderbird. People with one email account don't need more than a web browser unless the webservice is sluggish crap, spiked with ads and annoing stuff going on.

jrsilvey

MattX (is it called SSB?)

I think Firefox called them SSB (Single Site Browsers) and I don't believe Firefox is going to continue development of SSBs. I think Brave (which is Chromium) calls them PWAs (Progressive Web Apps).

Same concept though.

moore-bryan

jrsilvey From what I've read Nylas is "dead" and Mailspring is a fork of that code; do you have some super-secret info that Nylas is resurrecting?

[deleted]

jrsilvey I had -no- idea about version 91.. how can I install it and try it out if it isn't in the repo?

simply go to thunderbird.net and press that green button...if you are on Firefox then a download prompt will appear that clearly will say thunderbird 91. as easy as that 😃

we can expect it to land on our repo soon:

edit: it will be in form of an appimage.

jrsilvey

moore-bryan There are two types of people that work with computers in my experience.. detailed-oriented types and visionaries. I fall into the latter group.. I see big pictures well.

It makes me miss important details sometimes. It's why I am bad with development and programming.

I totally took this part of the page out of context.

Sometimes I can be a total dunce. I mean well though. 😁

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