WetGeek It'll be interesting to explore its current state.

I'll be interested in knowing what is included in the normal (not loaded) version, as opposed to Darkstar. Darkstar was too minimal in my opinion, missing a lot of the tools I expect to see in a working distro like Solus Plasma.

I've given this a bit more thought, and decided to install PCLinuxOS (probably the "normal" version, depending on what you report) bare metal on my 11-3180. I recently bought a Dell-refurbished Latitude 11-3120 to use with Solus, intending to use the older (and less powerful, by a lot) 11-3180 to look at distros that showed promise in a Live session. I've been holding off turning the 11-3120 to Solus because the laptop runs Windows 11 so well that I enjoy playing with it. Time to move on, I guess.

    WetGeek It's now about to the middle of 555 software upgrades. It'll be interesting to explore its current state.

    Awww, fsck! After all those hundreds of upgrades finished, this is as far as I could get with it.

    That's a never-ending cycle of logon on, and logon again. Never gets to an actual working OS. And by now, I'm ready for this adventure to end. Maybe at a later date, I'll be in a position to repurpose my Precision for exploring various distros on hardware, and I'll revisit this.

    Sorry I can't tell you any more about this distro at this time, but maybe later.

        WetGeek That's a never-ending cycle of logon on, and logon again. Never gets to an actual working OS. And by now, I'm ready for this adventure to end.

        A pain. I spent time last night reading the first 20-odd Distrowatch reviews and looking into the support forum, and users swear by PCLOS. Consider setting up a USB and running a Live session. That should tell you whether or not PCLOS is worth a second look when the Precision is available again.

            tomscharbach users swear by PCLOS.

            I don't doubt that it works fine in some circumstances, on some hardware. How is it going with your 11-3120?

                WetGeek How is it going with your 11-3120?

                I love that little computer. It is from the Latitude line developed for the education market, built kid-tough, solid as a rock and with a good non-touch non-reflective display. The retail price reflects the build quality (my 11-3120 retails for $669 but I got it Dell-refurbished much, much cheaper), noticably better built than the Inspiron 11-3180. The specs are good -- 8 GB RAM, 128 GB NVMe SSD, 53 WHr battery -- and the Pentium N6000 is more than adequate to run Windows 11. I don't sit and think "come on, already" like I used to do running Windows 10 on the 11-3180. The 11-3120 is obviously not for gaming or serious multitasking, but I have had 10-12 tabs open in Edge without a noticeable effect on performance.

                    tomscharbach I love that little computer. It is from the Latitude line developed for the education market

                    When you wrote that it was time to "move on," I thought you were referring to installing PCLinuxOS on it in place of Windows. That's what I was wondering about.

                        Axios I just dont do grub anymore.

                        Me neither. I've banged my head into the "Grub, Grub Uber Alles" wall too many times. I have come to really appreciate the fact that Solus doesn't use Grub.

                            WetGeek When you wrote that it was time to "move on," I thought you were referring to installing PCLinuxOS on it in place of Windows. That's what I was wondering about.

                            Nah. I'll use the 11-3120 for the railroad and general light work, diverting the 11-3180 to become "Mikey", the computer used to test distros that make it through Live testing. I'm about to do another Live test on PCLOS ("normal" build this time rather than Darkstar) and see whether I want to install it on the 11-3180.

                            I don't know whether I'll keep Windows 11 or install Solus Plasma on the 11-3120. Up in the air right now, because there are some advantages to using Windows 11 at the railroad.

                                tomscharbach I don't know whether I'll keep Windows 11 or install Solus Plasma on the 11-3120. Up in the air right now, because there are some advantages to using Windows 11 at the railroad.

                                Is there enough disk space for a dual boot?

                                    Staudey Solus uses GRUB for legacy (i.e. BIOS) boot.

                                    Another good reason to use UEFI, as if there weren't already a hundred good reasons.

                                        WetGeek Is there enough disk space for a dual boot?

                                        I gave up on single-drive dual-boot several years ago. If I want to use Solus on a Windows computer, I can use the "Portable Plasma" external M.2 drive which sets up dual-drive dual-boot and works fine on whatever computer I want to use, so long as the computer is UEFI and Secure Boot disabled.

                                          @WetGeek For what it is worth, I ran the "normal" PCLOS Plasma in a Live session and was not impressed. A ton of applications I'll never use, few of the K-pop standards present in Solus Plasma, a washed-out Breeze Dark theme, LibreOffice overload, inconsistent theming with about half the applications, and sizing issues with a number of Windows. Thumbs down.

                                          The more I compare Solus to just about anything else, the more I become convinced that Solus is a unique distro, well-designed and well-implemented from top to bottom.

                                            tomscharbach The more I compare Solus to just about anything else, the more I become convinced that Solus is a unique distro, well-designed and well-implemented from top to bottom.

                                            It would take me about 7 sentences to say exactly this ^^, so yeah, me too, this^.

                                              tomscharbach I ran the "normal" PCLOS Plasma in a Live session and was not impressed

                                              I decided to give it one last try -- I've replaced the .ISO in the VM with a brand-new (11/30/2022) version of KDE Plasma. It's now making just 22 upgrades, and I should be close to resolving my last smidge of curiosity about what I'm now referring to as my "PCLinuxOS Affair."

                                              I have never explored other distros in order to find a replacement for Solus, as I feel the same way about it as you do. I'm just intrigued by what's going on in other distros, by other teams. But this last attempt will certainly conclude my participation in the PCLinuxOS Affair.

                                                  WetGeek I have never explored other distros in order to find a replacement for Solus, as I feel the same way about it as you do. I'm just intrigued by what's going on in other distros, by other teams.

                                                  The title of this thread ("If not solus, what distro would you be using?") suggests that "a replacement for Solus" is a relevant to evaluation, but I understand what you mean. While "a replacement for Solus" is always in the back of my mind, I look at distros with an eye towards (1) is the distro a good choice as a desktop/working environment for an "ordinary home desktop user", (2) is the distro something I would recommend to my friends (non-technical for the most part) for that purpose, and (3) is the user interface as well-designed and intuitive as Windows, MacOS, Android, ChromeOS, iOS and other major user interfaces, all different but well done. A threshold criteria is design quality -- nobody who is used to any of the "majors" is going to tolerate sloppy, amateurish design for their primary working computing environment.

                                                      tomscharbach The title of this thread ("If not solus, what distro would you be using?") suggests that "a replacement for Solus" is a relevant to evaluation

                                                      @adurante created this thread, and gave it that name. I created the Other Interesting Distros thread, which is more in line with my interests. Still, having used and loved Solus for years, there's understandibly some overlap. If Solus were taken away somehow, and I no longer had it, I'd want its replacement to be as much like it as possible.

                                                        tomscharbach The title of this thread ("If not solus, what distro would you be using?") suggests that "a replacement for Solus" is a relevant to evaluation, but I understand what you mean. While "a replacement for Solus" is always in the back of my mind, I look at distros with an eye towards (1) is the distro a good choice as a desktop/working environment for an "ordinary home desktop user", (2) is the distro something I would recommend to my friends (non-technical for the most part) for that purpose, and (3) is the user interface as well-designed and intuitive as Windows, MacOS, Android, ChromeOS, iOS and other major user interfaces, all different but well done. A threshold criteria is design quality -- nobody who is used to any of the "majors" is going to tolerate sloppy, amateurish design for their primary working computing environment.

                                                        Sometimes I think we BS ourselves, maybe I do. I love threads like these because maybe I pretend to be looking for a cool sidekick to Solus. As a practical matter Win10 is my backup. Do I need a third OS? I'm not a hobbyist.
                                                        Or is the truth that Solus set the bar so high this distro hunt is an intriguing pita. You really want the truth truth? I'm always scared that Solus & Co.will cease to function, pull up stakes, and vanish, and I want a luxurious daily driver like this I can step right into to conduct the business of day to day living.
                                                        [If that awful day comes I will be honest, Bodhi or Bunsen I've enjoyed the most].
                                                        But I very much enjoy others' POVs on distros.