Solus Updates for Week 40, 2024

AlphaElwedritsch

WetGeek why not configuring to go to standby instead of hibernate when closing the lid?
Then laptop is not only locked and running all night.

WetGeek

AlphaElwedritsch why not configuring to go to standby instead of hibernate

I tried "sleep," which is available in the main menu (Plasma), and was disappointed to see that it responded the same as hibernate. I'm not sure what the difference is between that and "standby," but I'll look for the latter in the system settings, and give that a try if it's there. Thanks for the suggestion!

EDIT: This seems to be the only way to use "standby":

Apparently it requires entering "sleep" first, which I'm pretty sure didn't help me. I created a keyboard shortcut for "hibernate" a long time ago (invokes systemctl hibernate when I press Ctrl+H), but I just tried to do the same for "suspend," and that didn't work (command not found). So, it appears that my only alternative is to lock the screen until whatever causes this glitch can be fixed.

EbonJaeger

We just did a mini-sync so we could generate testing ISOs for OpenCollective backers.

brent

EbonJaeger We just did a mini-sync so we could generate testing ISOs for OpenCollective backers

that went fine this morning for me + reboot

AlphaElwedritsch

I'm on vacation right now and don't have my laptop to hand. Otherwise I could check it. I'll take a look next week

Sebastian

Ok, we are getting way too Off-Topic here, but the difference between suspend and hibernation is the first saves the state of the system to RAM(so needs energy) and the latter saves to hard drive for sleep.
In case of hibernation you thus can awake system even after power outage.
Both suck though, cause I have never seen them work reliably, across distros.
Just because it works now doesn't mean that the next update isn't going to break it.
On my Fedora machine wake-up doesn't work properly currently.
And I personally don't like to use a feature that is prone to break every x weeks.

JTCPingas

Sebastian I'm also one of those that never bothers to use hibernation or suspend. I'll let it go to sleep automatically, but usually I'll just do a proper shutdown when I'm done.

WetGeek

Sebastian the difference between suspend and hibernation is ...

That's something most of us probably already understand. But it's the difference between Standby and Hibernate that I asked about. Suspend is a category in Plasma's system settings, but not a command.

Which DE are you using? On Plasma, apparently the only way to use Standby is to Sleep first, and that doesn't help me, as I said. (See the image above.) The only apparent solution for me is to just lock the screen (META+L). Although it leaves the computer running, it works, and I don't need to restart 10 different applications in the morning, and try to remember where I was working in each of them.

penny-farthing

WetGeek

Just to make sure I understood you correctly: does the META key correspond to the SUPER (Windows) key on the keyboard or is it another key?
In any case, pressing SUPER+L effectively locks the session without turning off the computer.

Also, just for your information, I processed a final Solus update today (6:50 PM, French time) that concerned apparmor, kernel v 6.10.11-303 and NVIDIA driver 560.35.03.
Despite this new update, there is nothing new regarding the problems related to the hibernate and suspend functions.
So, wait and see... and as I said above, as long as it doesn't prevent us from working on the computer, we have to know how to be patient.

WetGeek

penny-farthing does the META key correspond to the SUPER (Windows) key on the keyboard or is it another key?

Yeah, it's the "Win" key on some keyboards, and just the Windows icon on other keyboards. Same thing, though.

MikeK61

I cant tell much about hibernate but im using standby for more than 2 years already without any issues ever.
Im on Plasma too and very happy like it works. I only have to enable VPN after wakeup but i dont use wifi.

WetGeek

MikeK61 I only have to enable VPN after wakeup but i dont use wifi.

So, you use a wired connection, then? And I'm curious how you're invoking standby on Plasma. I haven't found a way to do that without a sleep first, and that ruins it for me.

AlphaElwedritsch

MikeK61 I cant tell much about hibernate but im using standby for more than 2 years already without any issues ever.
Im on Plasma too and very happy like it works.
I only have to enable VPN after wakeup but i dont use wifi.

Absolutely the same here but Wi-Fi connection

SilverBird775

Plasma.

Selecting "Configure Audio Devices" in volume widget open blank "Sound" page in System Settings. Can be filled by switching settings pages back and forth.
(edit: FIXED) Networks widget shows extra entries, blanked lines as all-empty non-functional connections without configuration, nameless, and without properties. Based on their count it seems like they double visualize the existing ones but with null properties.

nazar

thanks, devs.

synth-ruiner

sHAKaJaada ha, cool to see what the process actually looks like. I saw this running on my laptop but I didn't have my glasses on and it was over in a few seconds 😆

Kiwimoose

Hi this update unfortunately makes my laptop boot either to a blinking line or I get the message failed to start lighten.service.

I have older (700 series) Nvidia graphics but don't have the proprietary driver installed.
Redoing usysconf run -f doesn't help unfortunately.

Kiwimoose

Kiwimoose that should be lightdm.service

ReillyBrogan

Kiwimoose does it work if you restart lightdm?

Kiwimoose

that did not work sadly. I did journalctl --unit=lightdm and got this: "Nvidia: failed to initialize the Nvidia kernel Module. Please see the system's kernel log for additional error messages(...)"
And then later:
Fatal server error:
(EE) no screens found(EE)

Staudey

Kiwimoose Are you sure you don't have the nvidia drivers installed? What does eopkg li | grep nvidia say? Are there any packages without "modaliases" in the name?

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