WetGeek Maybe the next sync will produce a pleasant surprise, and I won't need the work-around any more.

One last note on this: once again, I've proven that after the laptop has hibernated one time without a browser running, it behaves perfectly thereafter. So I'm going to continue as I proposed in a previous message. I'll just work all week as I'm accustomed to doing, and hibernate this laptop every night.

Whatever the root cause of this problem is, this process appears to fix it until after the next complete shutdown.

    WetGeek the ghost artifacts are strange in that picture above--but they are all warnings of some kind? what would cause plasma-browser-integration to crash I wonder? the act of waking?

    So in this murky relationship between hibernation and a running browser there's some kind of conflict. You know all this already. Bug for sure, but whose I wonder? In theory waking from hibernation produces the identical state before machine was shut down. You've been pulling your hair out with this one for a while.
    Was there any news upstream about this, etc I wonder?

    I'm all questions and no suggestions this morning.

    edit: read a little bit. not uncommon. a browser only makes into a few threads about hibernation. I overlooked the fact you run VMs so I don't know if that's another factor with all the active parts of this?

      Oh wow, those DPI scaling changes in WINE! So many DX1-7 era games are broken now. They are not really ready for DPI tricks.

      brent the ghost artifacts are strange in that picture above--but they are all warnings of some kind?

      Yes. I captured that warning in a subsequent post. And I've noticed that those warnings appear even when I haven't started any applications yet - just launched the system and started a terminal. So no browser in use yet.

      If I keep going, and load up the workspaces with their typical applications, the warnings disappear.

      We just did a little mini-sync to get a quick branding change in before spinning ISOs 👀

      The branding change affects Budgie and XFCE. It changes the default archive manager from File Roller to Engrampa. We decided to do this because since File Roller was recently ported to GTK4/libadwaita, drag-and-drop no longer works with it and GTK3 applications; the drag-and-drop API changed between GTK 3 and 4 and are not compatible.

      Included in this mini-sync is a bugfix update to libcairo.

        Qt5 libraries have been deprecated

        How long till these are removed completely. I build apps at the moment for QT5 so if they go, I will have to try to manually install them.

          EbonJaeger The branding change affects Budgie and XFCE. It changes the default archive manager from File Roller to Engrampa. We decided to do this because since File Roller was recently ported to GTK4/libadwaita, drag-and-drop no longer works with it and GTK3 applications; the drag-and-drop API changed between GTK 3 and 4 and are not compatible.

          Engrampa is ok, not a good-looking extract window at all when I've tried it elsewhere, but its reliable. Sorry file-roller became unusable but se la vie. Forward progress is all good. Thanks for the heads up.

          mouse_AUS

          Not really no. Not without packaging it yourself with a different package name.

            Harvey
            is that hard to do? I really dont want to move away from Solus as for me it seems to work the best, but what I am working on /developing for is QT5. I need that to stay. I however do not require KF5.

              mouse_AUS
              You would have to judge that yourself: https://help.getsol.us/docs/packaging howeverqt5-base / qt5-base-devel is likely to remain for a while; So if that is all you need you need not worry yet but Qt5 is a dead end, it has no long term future anywhere.

              It seems the "Email link to this button" in Firefox is suddenly broken. When I click it, I get a message box with the error:

              "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding. To use Thunderbird, you must first close the existing Thunderbird process, restart your device, or use a different profile."

              Yes, Thunderbird is already running. On my machine, it's always running, and always has. That never was a problem before. Also, I can without problem enter xdg-open mailto:<some email address> in a shell and a mail window opens. I conclude therefore it has something to do with Firefox itself. I already searched the interwebs for this error with Firefox, with no luck. Maybe it's just on my machine. I'd appreciate it if someone could try that out on their machine and tell me how it went. Thx a lot.

                mouse_AUS Which libraries do you need specifically? Most of the commonly used ones are likely to stick around for a year plus since there's likely to be a significant tail for applications adopting Qt6. The upstream EOL of Qt5 is May of next year so that's really the earliest that we could realistically remove it is then. Some of the less commonly used Qt5 libraries will probably be removed before that point once their revdeps are all updated to Qt6.

                  Harvey Slight correction, we never attempted the usr-merge for /lib* so if there's a symlink for those it does mean that the usr-merge script ran.

                  pillmuncher

                  I couldn't get ff to work from a mailto link just kept asking which application to open when thunderbird was highlighted. Had TB running and not running no new mail window. Works fine in Chromium, opens new message to write and send. Looks like a FF bug. Tell Mozilla.

                    I'm pretty sure I've found the root cause of my hibernation problem. Over time, I've occasionnally added new tabs to my current Vivaldi session. Examples are when I've been referred to a new doctor, or subscribed to a new streaming service or racing championship. But I had absolutely no idea how those tabs added up. I'm sure that a good many are duplicates, just added at different times.

                    58 tabs in one window eventually became 332 tabs in 17 windows!

                    So little by little, hibernating this laptop became more and more of a job, culminating in my recent issues. Since all these tabs are available on my start page anyway, I've now gone back to my June working set, and will simply grab those less important tabs from the start page if I need to connect with them. The convenience of having them immediately available in the current session just isn't worth the performance hit.

                      WetGeek 58 tabs in one window eventually became 332 tabs in 17 windows!

                      So little by little, hibernating this laptop became more and more of a job

                      great troubleshooting! so the browser considered tabs, open or not, as an active connection?