Sync Updates for Week 38, 2024

WetGeek

WetGeek Maybe the next sync will produce a pleasant surprise, and I won't need the work-around any more.

One last note on this: once again, I've proven that after the laptop has hibernated one time without a browser running, it behaves perfectly thereafter. So I'm going to continue as I proposed in a previous message. I'll just work all week as I'm accustomed to doing, and hibernate this laptop every night.

Whatever the root cause of this problem is, this process appears to fix it until after the next complete shutdown.

brent

WetGeek the ghost artifacts are strange in that picture above--but they are all warnings of some kind? what would cause plasma-browser-integration to crash I wonder? the act of waking?

So in this murky relationship between hibernation and a running browser there's some kind of conflict. You know all this already. Bug for sure, but whose I wonder? In theory waking from hibernation produces the identical state before machine was shut down. You've been pulling your hair out with this one for a while.
Was there any news upstream about this, etc I wonder?

I'm all questions and no suggestions this morning.

edit: read a little bit. not uncommon. a browser only makes into a few threads about hibernation. I overlooked the fact you run VMs so I don't know if that's another factor with all the active parts of this?

WetGeek

brent the ghost artifacts are strange in that picture above--but they are all warnings of some kind?

Yes. I captured that warning in a subsequent post. And I've noticed that those warnings appear even when I haven't started any applications yet - just launched the system and started a terminal. So no browser in use yet.

If I keep going, and load up the workspaces with their typical applications, the warnings disappear.

SilverBird775

Oh wow, those DPI scaling changes in WINE! So many DX1-7 era games are broken now. They are not really ready for DPI tricks.

EbonJaeger

We just did a little mini-sync to get a quick branding change in before spinning ISOs 👀

The branding change affects Budgie and XFCE. It changes the default archive manager from File Roller to Engrampa. We decided to do this because since File Roller was recently ported to GTK4/libadwaita, drag-and-drop no longer works with it and GTK3 applications; the drag-and-drop API changed between GTK 3 and 4 and are not compatible.

Included in this mini-sync is a bugfix update to libcairo.

brent

EbonJaeger The branding change affects Budgie and XFCE. It changes the default archive manager from File Roller to Engrampa. We decided to do this because since File Roller was recently ported to GTK4/libadwaita, drag-and-drop no longer works with it and GTK3 applications; the drag-and-drop API changed between GTK 3 and 4 and are not compatible.

Engrampa is ok, not a good-looking extract window at all when I've tried it elsewhere, but its reliable. Sorry file-roller became unusable but se la vie. Forward progress is all good. Thanks for the heads up.

Lucien_Lachance

i love ISO days

bubba66

All good on my Gnome box ☺️ thanks.

mouse_AUS

Qt5 libraries have been deprecated

How long till these are removed completely. I build apps at the moment for QT5 so if they go, I will have to try to manually install them.

Harvey

mouse_AUS

If nothing in the repository needs them any longer, they go.

mouse_AUS

Harvey Is there a way to stop them being removed off my PC?

Harvey

mouse_AUS

Not really no. Not without packaging it yourself with a different package name.

mouse_AUS

Harvey
is that hard to do? I really dont want to move away from Solus as for me it seems to work the best, but what I am working on /developing for is QT5. I need that to stay. I however do not require KF5.

Harvey

mouse_AUS
You would have to judge that yourself: https://help.getsol.us/docs/packaging howeverqt5-base / qt5-base-devel is likely to remain for a while; So if that is all you need you need not worry yet but Qt5 is a dead end, it has no long term future anywhere.

ReillyBrogan

mouse_AUS Which libraries do you need specifically? Most of the commonly used ones are likely to stick around for a year plus since there's likely to be a significant tail for applications adopting Qt6. The upstream EOL of Qt5 is May of next year so that's really the earliest that we could realistically remove it is then. Some of the less commonly used Qt5 libraries will probably be removed before that point once their revdeps are all updated to Qt6.

pillmuncher

It seems the "Email link to this button" in Firefox is suddenly broken. When I click it, I get a message box with the error:

"Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding. To use Thunderbird, you must first close the existing Thunderbird process, restart your device, or use a different profile."

Yes, Thunderbird is already running. On my machine, it's always running, and always has. That never was a problem before. Also, I can without problem enter xdg-open mailto:<some email address> in a shell and a mail window opens. I conclude therefore it has something to do with Firefox itself. I already searched the interwebs for this error with Firefox, with no luck. Maybe it's just on my machine. I'd appreciate it if someone could try that out on their machine and tell me how it went. Thx a lot.

banger

pillmuncher

I couldn't get ff to work from a mailto link just kept asking which application to open when thunderbird was highlighted. Had TB running and not running no new mail window. Works fine in Chromium, opens new message to write and send. Looks like a FF bug. Tell Mozilla.

mouse_AUS

ReillyBrogan I would have to check, definitely the core Qt5 and QT5-devel. I know its EOL but when working on Industrial to update everything to QT6 is doable but ATM its not ideal esp when Plasma 6 is not mature enough for 24/7 operation. When Plasma does mature however then updating to QT6 will be fine. There is however other apps that rely on Qt5 libraries so it would be good if they hung around for a while.

ReillyBrogan

Harvey Slight correction, we never attempted the usr-merge for /lib* so if there's a symlink for those it does mean that the usr-merge script ran.

pillmuncher

banger Thank you. I have no idea what's going on. I did some spelunking in the depths of Mozilla's bug list and that error seems to crop up from time to time. Anyway, I installed the flatpak and it works. Fine by me.

EDIT: That didn't age well. FlatPak Firefox can't communicate with KeePassXC. I downloaded Firefox 130.0.1 from mozilla.org and installed in ~/ and the mail button works. It seems it's not a Firefox bug after all. I dunno.

WetGeek

I'm pretty sure I've found the root cause of my hibernation problem. Over time, I've occasionnally added new tabs to my current Vivaldi session. Examples are when I've been referred to a new doctor, or subscribed to a new streaming service or racing championship. But I had absolutely no idea how those tabs added up. I'm sure that a good many are duplicates, just added at different times.

58 tabs in one window eventually became 332 tabs in 17 windows!

So little by little, hibernating this laptop became more and more of a job, culminating in my recent issues. Since all these tabs are available on my start page anyway, I've now gone back to my June working set, and will simply grab those less important tabs from the start page if I need to connect with them. The convenience of having them immediately available in the current session just isn't worth the performance hit.

brent

WetGeek 58 tabs in one window eventually became 332 tabs in 17 windows!

So little by little, hibernating this laptop became more and more of a job

great troubleshooting! so the browser considered tabs, open or not, as an active connection?

WetGeek

brent so the browser considered tabs, open or not, as an active connection?

Must have. I can't find any way to delete those bloated sessions, either. There's nothing obvious in the context menu, or the Files menu. Gonna look through the hidden files in my /home directory now.

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