What's going on with the OS?

CorvusRuber

Care to elaborate a bit ?
Because I, too, am using Plasma.....and the only issue I had was with latte-dock 0.10.7 that didn't play well with Wayland.

AMD or Intel CPU ? Integrated or discrete GPU (and what GPU) ?
Theme ? Fonts ?
"It doesn't work" is not a useful description of the problem.

Semenov

CorvusRuber @ReillyBrogan
Visual issues aren't so important if the laptop may freeze at any time.

Asus N61, Intel, Nvidia
I was thinking that it could be a hardcore issue, but I don't believe in such coincidences: I installed the update on Saturday evening, and on Sunday I noticed all these problems.

ReillyBrogan

Can you provide screenshots of what you mean? Unfortunately we haven't heard any similar reports to what you're reporting so we can't really know the solution to your problem.

Semenov

ReillyBrogan the main problem is freezes: I just work and then the interface simply stops responding to clicks. The cursor moves, the sound works for a few more minutes, but then everything freezes. The only thing I can do is hard reset.

I thought it might be a problem with Vivaldi, but then the laptop froze when I was working in Krita.

TraceyC

Semenov

I've been testing KDE Plasma with both X11 and Wayland (unstable repo), and it's been fine for me. Are you on the stable / Shannon repo?

Can you please go to About this System in the menu and use the copy button and then paste that here? We'll do some digging in the meantime.

Semenov

TraceyC

Wayland works even much worse for me. This is X11.

algent

Semenov Just to make sure that there aren't any Broken packages, please run this command:
sudo eopkg check |gawk '/Broken/ { print $4 }' |xargs sudo eopkg it --reinstall

EDIT: Updated to remove unnecessary grep invocation (/ermo)

CorvusRuber

You mentioned in another post that you have an Nvidia GT220m for GPU: that thing is 14 years old, and the rest of your specs (Core 2 Duo CPU, 4 GB RAM) seem to point to an equally old system.
I'm not surprised that some things could not work so well on a system so old and underpowered for today's standards....

ReillyBrogan

Can you try booting to your previous kernel?

Semenov

ReillyBrogan
I tried 6.1.24-230 and 6.2.14-232

ReillyBrogan

Semenov And? Any change?

ermo

@Semenov

Could you be persuaded to run the following and paste the output into a text block surrounded by triple backticks like this:

```
(output of sudo LC_ALL=en-US.UTF8 lspci -vnn goes here)
```

This will give the team better insight into exactly which hardware you are running.

The finished post should look like something along these lines:

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Root Complex [1022:1450]
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) Root Complex [1043:8747]
        Flags: fast devsel

00:00.2 IOMMU [0806]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) I/O Memory Management Unit [1022:1451]
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) I/O Memory Management Unit [1043:8747]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
        Capabilities: [40] Secure device <?>
        Capabilities: [64] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/4 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [74] HyperTransport: MSI Mapping Enable+ Fixed+

00:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-1fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]
        Flags: fast devsel, IOMMU group 0

(... more output here ...)

Semenov

algent How long is this supposed to work? Because it looks like nothing happens (after entering the password, the cursor appeared, but without a username).

Semenov

algent

Total size of package(s): 38.88 MB
Downloading 1 / 1
Package noto-sans-ttf found in repository Solus
noto-sans-ttf-20201206-21-1-x86_64.eopkg (38.9 MB)100%      2.36 MB/s [00:00:01] [complete]
Installing 1 / 1
noto-sans-ttf-20201206-21-1-x86_64.eopkg [cached]
Installing noto-sans-ttf, version 20201206, release 21
Extracting the files of noto-sans-ttf
Installed noto-sans-ttf
 [✓] Syncing filesystems                                                success
 [✓] Rebuilding font cache                                              success

algent

Semenov Don't type anything leave it to finish.

ermo

Semenov How long is this supposed to work? Because it looks like nothing happens (after entering the password, the cursor appeared, but without a username).

As your PC is fairly old and doesn't have any cryptography co-processor hardware, the process will run for a while as it is calculating the checksums of all files installed by a package on your system and comparing them with the checksum recorded in the list of files in each package.

Semenov

00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub [8086:2a40] (rev 07)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=0a <?>

00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port [8086:2a41] (rev 07) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 24
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff [size=4K]
        Memory behind bridge: fa000000-fdefffff [size=63M]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000d0000000-00000000dfffffff [size=256M]
        Capabilities: [88] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Mobile 4 Series Chipset PCI Express Graphics Port [1043:1867]
        Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [90] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [a0] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [140] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2937] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16
        I/O ports at bc00 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2938] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 21
        I/O ports at b880 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 [8086:2939] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
        I/O ports at b800 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 [8086:293c] (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
        Memory at f9fffc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [58] Debug port: BAR=1 offset=00a0
        Capabilities: [98] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci

00:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [8086:293e] (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller [1043:15a3]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 30
        Memory at f9ff8000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel

00:1c.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [8086:2940] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
        Memory behind bridge: [disabled]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
        Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 [1043:1c37]
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.1 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 [8086:2942] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 26
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=03, subordinate=03, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
        Memory behind bridge: fdf00000-fdffffff [size=1M]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
        Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot-), MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 2 [1043:1c37]
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 [8086:2944] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 27
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=04, subordinate=05, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 0000d000-0000dfff [size=4K]
        Memory behind bridge: fe000000-feafffff [size=11M]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000f6000000-00000000f8ffffff [size=48M]
        Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 3 [1043:1c37]
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1c.5 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 [8086:294a] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 28
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=06, sec-latency=0
        I/O behind bridge: 0000e000-0000efff [size=4K]
        Memory behind bridge: feb00000-febfffff [size=1M]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 00000000c0000000-00000000c01fffff [size=2M]
        Capabilities: [40] Express Root Port (Slot+), MSI 00
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [90] Subsystem: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 [8086:294a]
        Capabilities: [a0] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [180] Root Complex Link
        Kernel driver in use: pcieport

00:1d.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 [8086:2934] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
        I/O ports at b480 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 [8086:2935] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 19
        I/O ports at b400 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.2 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 [8086:2936] (rev 03) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 18
        I/O ports at b080 [size=32]
        Capabilities: [50] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1d.7 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 [8086:293a] (rev 03) (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 23
        Memory at f9fff800 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=1K]
        Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
        Capabilities: [58] Debug port: BAR=1 offset=00a0
        Capabilities: [98] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci

00:1e.0 PCI bridge [0604]: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [8086:2448] (rev 93) (prog-if 01 [Subtractive decode])
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0
        Bus: primary=00, secondary=07, subordinate=07, sec-latency=32
        I/O behind bridge: [disabled]
        Memory behind bridge: [disabled]
        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: [disabled]
        Capabilities: [50] Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge [1043:1c37]

00:1f.0 ISA bridge [0601]: Intel Corporation ICH9M LPC Interface Controller [8086:2919] (rev 03)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. ICH9M LPC Interface Controller [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0
        Capabilities: [e0] Vendor Specific Information: Len=0c <?>
        Kernel driver in use: lpc_ich

00:1f.2 SATA controller [0106]: Intel Corporation 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [8086:2929] (rev 03) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 82801IBM/IEM (ICH9M/ICH9M-E) 4 port SATA Controller [AHCI mode] [1043:1c37]
        Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 0, IRQ 29
        I/O ports at b000 [size=8]
        I/O ports at ac00 [size=4]
        I/O ports at a880 [size=8]
        I/O ports at a800 [size=4]
        I/O ports at a480 [size=32]
        Memory at f9fff000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]
        Capabilities: [80] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/16 Maskable- 64bit-
        Capabilities: [70] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [a8] SATA HBA v1.0
        Capabilities: [b0] PCI Advanced Features
        Kernel driver in use: ahci

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation G96CM [GeForce GT 220M] [10de:0654] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G96CM [GeForce GT 220M] [1043:1ad2]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 32
        Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
        Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]
        Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M]
        I/O ports at cc00 [size=128]
        Expansion ROM at 000c0000 [virtual] [disabled] [size=128K]
        Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [68] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [78] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [b4] Vendor Specific Information: Len=14 <?>
        Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
        Capabilities: [128] Power Budgeting <?>
        Capabilities: [600] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=024 <?>
        Kernel driver in use: nouveau

03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 [8086:4232]
        Subsystem: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 5100 ABG [8086:1206]
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 31
        Memory at fdffe000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
        Capabilities: [c8] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [d0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [e0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
        Capabilities: [140] Device Serial Number 00-16-ea-ff-ff-c6-3c-0c
        Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi

06:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Qualcomm Atheros AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet [1969:1063] (rev c0)
        Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. AR8131 Gigabit Ethernet [1043:1820]
        Physical Slot: 0-1
        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 33
        Memory at febc0000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K]
        I/O ports at ec00 [size=128]
        Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
        Capabilities: [48] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
        Capabilities: [58] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
        Capabilities: [6c] Vital Product Data
        Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
        Capabilities: [180] Device Serial Number ff-97-e5-00-90-e6-ba-ff
        Kernel driver in use: atl1c

ermo

@ReillyBrogan

Semenov 's lspci output shows that he's using the nouveau driver; do we even have a supported NVidia Xorg driver for the GT220m chip he appears to be using?

And how much of this has to do with e.g. LDM?

FTR, I have an old C2Q Q9400 box and a GF GT240 card that I can help test with as/if necessary. This hardware config should be somewhat similar in terms of age and driver support.

I will state for the record that I'm not surprised to hear that the nouveau driver performs poorly and tends towards glitches. This has been my own experience with nouveau as well as soon as 3D acceleration is involved.

ReillyBrogan

ermo That GPU hasn't been supported since the 340 nvidia driver which was EOLed quite a while ago. The nouveau driver is his only option, and considering that it's built into the kernel there's a decent chance that booting to the old kernel might help ( @Semenov hasn't reported back whether that helps or not). Another issue might be something to do with the mesalib update since I think that noeveau uses a user-space driver in the mesalib package.

Semenov

ReillyBrogan How old? I tried 6.1.24-230 and 6.2.14-232. And how to install LTS kernel? What version? Because today I tried Neon and Mint MATE, and they work perfect.

synth-ruiner

Semenov the package is called linux-lts. you have to run sudo clr-boot-manager update afterward too, I think, and pick the kernel you want in your bootloader.