ISO preparations: Stabilizing repositories

Staudey

Lucien_Lachance edit: which reminds me, are you still doing one iso per DE, or the unified(download) approach?

One ISO per DE, as usual. In general 4.4 will be a rather conservative ISO release. The bigger items are planned for 4.5 after that. (but I don't think we'll change this particular aspect about our release anytime soon)

atriaze

Just a quick question...or two ^^
I see in the applications repo, i3 packages.
A new DE to come or will it always be systematically coupled with another Budgie or Mate type?

Staudey

atriaze We've had i3 for a long time (https://github.com/getsolus/help-center-docs/blob/master/software/desktop-environments/en.md#i3)

But it will not get its own ISO, no.

10leej

Staudey That's fine i3 is kinda terrible as a tiling window manager for a new user who sees the dynamic tilers first.

atriaze

Staudey No worries
Thank you for the feedback 🙂

brent

Staudey for new .iso Budgie I have to imagine that Nemo is enabled and Nautilus/Budgie-Desktop-View are gone? Is that correct? And you are sticking with Celluoid and not that ratty Parole?
Guess I am asking for a Budgie teaser...
edit/sp.

chicocheco

Nice, can't wait to see the new ISOs. I think I will switch back to Solus GNOME from openSUSES TW.

Staudey

brent for new .iso Budgie I have to imagine that Nemo is enabled and Nautilus/Budgie-Desktop-View are gone? Is that correct? And you are sticking with Celluoid and not that ratty Parole?

Pretty sure Nemo will be the file manager for Budgie, yes. Not sure if Evan (or someone else) wants to switch out Celluloid for this 4.4 ISO.

brent

Staudey thanks staudey for the scoop. : @EbonJaeger --this budgie user loves Celluloid. was a good choice and better than mpv.

WetGeek

brent this budgie user loves Celluloid. was a good choice and better than mpv.

celluloid is a front-end wrapper for mpv. What does it add?

brent

WetGeek more customizable and easier on the eyes (to me) than the gnome mpv of old. I credit the Gtk4 base. responsiveness seems better. looks and responsiveness are subjective answers but frontends are often there to improve. I thought it did.
there's this:
mpv made me seek out vlc.
celluloid did not.

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WetGeek From what I remember it at least adds a more traditional UI in comparison to mpv's quite minimalist approach.

brent It's rebranded GNOME MPV if I'm not mistaken.

waltff1

Any idea when we can expect the new ISO? I would love to see if it works with my HO-omen. Right now 4.3 won't boot.

zmaint

waltff1 You might also try the 4.2 ISO, I've had better luck getting that to work. I think there's something funky in the nouveau driver for 4.3.

nolan

You can check this: Solus 4.4 ISO checklist

SOLUS_INVICTUS

Instead of willing to change everything ( the best way to loose fan is to make changes ... Slackware )

why don't you simply upgrade Solus Fortitude 4.3 to Solus Fortitude 4.39999 and make a Live USB of Solus Fortitude 4.3999, as does openSUSE Tumbleweed ... every days !

This may bring again successs to Solus as Solus will be considered again as active distro instead of Dormant or Dead distro... to gain in reputation and you will have full time to make a outstanding Live USB which will be perfect for the PR as 2 annoucements are better than one ...

Then People loving Solus will still have fun with their existing Solus ( I prefer dying than using Nemo instead of Nautilus or even Caja )
And may be new people will try Solus for a while and may be keep using Solus and growing the community, the dream of all Solus fans...

You must act quickly as most of the BIG distros are proposing now Budgie Desktop :

Ubuntu ( Nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! )
openSUSE Tumbleweed ( pretty nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ) SuSE Family !
Gecko Linux Rolling ( Great with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ) SuSE Family !
Manjaro ( perfect with an Elementary OS like Menu in option )
ArcoLinux ( OK with an Elementary OS like Menu in option )
Fedora 38 ( Nice ), Red Hat Familiy !
UltraMarine ( very Nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ), Red Hat Familiy !
and sooooo much more ( about 15 )

brent

SOLUS_INVICTUS Ubuntu ( Nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! )
openSUSE Tumbleweed ( pretty nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ) SuSE Family !
Gecko Linux Rolling ( Great with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ) SuSE Family !
Manjaro ( perfect with an Elementary OS like Menu in option )
ArcoLinux ( OK with an Elementary OS like Menu in option )
Fedora 38 ( Nice ), Red Hat Familiy !
UltraMarine ( very Nice with an Elementary OS like Menu in option ! ), Red Hat Familiy !
and sooooo much more ( about 15 )

I've used Budgie in other distros (some on your list, some not) and believe me, it's really lousy in a few of these. And decent in a couple. I thought Fedora did the best job (very Solus-like with no crazy adjustments) but not enough for me to keep it. I keep Fedora in Cinnamon now as a backup.
Budgie in Solus is still the best to me.

SOLUS_INVICTUS I prefer dying than using Nemo instead of Nautilus or even Caja

good god you will have to explain this to me somday🙂 ^^.
My version goes like: I would prefer terrble plagues over ever having to use the pox-ridden buggy Nautilus again. Maybe that's what you meant😉?

The 4.39999 is clever, but any new .iso will get Solus out of Dormant on Distrowatch.
I didn't agree with everything, but brave post, I enjoyed reading it.

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SOLUS_INVICTUS
They're putting out a new ISO out soon. That will not be the transition to Solus 5.
When Solus 5 happens, it's planned to be as seamless transition as possible for existing users, as far as I know.

SOLUS_INVICTUS

brent I've used Budgie in other distros (some on your list, some not) and believe me, it's really lousy in a few of these. And decent in a couple. I thought Fedora did the best job (very Solus-like with no crazy adjustments) but not enough for me to keep it. I keep Fedora in Cinnamon now as a backup.
Budgie in Solus is still the best to me.

I'm working every days on Manjaro Budgie and Tumbleweed Budgie I really love the extra menu, no Windows or Mac at home only Unix and Linux,
Nautilus is the best solution used by all prof distros : perfect for copy to / move to, adding Drives from Cloud, managing MegaSync, Asus Web Storage, ... ( I'm using Nautilus every days on my RedHat RHEL 9.2 and SuSE SLE 15, I don't use Ubuntu workstation actually preferring a nice and solid fork : BackBox )
I totally agree with you Solus was the best Home computer distro except if you need to work or developp on Networks but I have hudge issues with freezing DE, alacarte does not work anymore, and brightness settings disappears on updates, MegaSync crashes now each time you are clicking on its status' icon, ... I'll love 4ever Solus but to be honnest to answer to you I'm using an ex-Solus Laptop running now a powerfull RedHat RHEL 9.2 Workstation ... Waiting impatiently for Solus to become active and stable again !
Feeling is one thing but technics needs real technical solutions ...

brent

SOLUS_INVICTUS . Waiting impatiently for Solus to become active and stable again !

Ironic, isn't it. Once I got rid of Nautilus all my Solus troubles went away. I'm not doing the stuff you are doing but the hard freezes and hard reboots...have had periods of those....three periods....hardware twice (hdd, memory stick) and once when an app was bleeding memory out of control, regularly and an update fixed it. But none in a really long time.
Speaking of nautilus...DE's that are not shipping with KDE/Mate ootb (dolphin/caja) are using Nemo more and more. Most of the Fedora spins have them and I noticed them in others. I have also had trouble with Nautilus in distros not Solus.
That's the crappy thing about Linux many times: problems are many times individual to a single user and not other users...
Manjaro I have always avoided it seems to get the most mixed reviews. But I did test spin their Budgie on an iso. Not as bad as the worst Budgie which is Arch's weird FrankenBudgie but close🙂. I loved Endeavor. When Solus crashed into the iceberg earlier this year Endeavour was a pleasure. Seemed stable. But I gave the edge to Fedora and haven't regretted it. It's been a stable #2 next to Solus.
It took me about a year to find a #2 operating system that I thought would be #1 but now Solus is back. All to say I use them both, they are both reliable, and neither have bit me yet----like you I just wanted competent workstations and finally got them.
Unsure where your Solus headaches are coming from though. Maybe check out the devtracker and see if others have reported similar to yout symptoms. at least you've have corroboration.

SOLUS_INVICTUS

brent Ironic, isn't it. Once I got rid of Nautilus all my Solus troubles went away

Thanks for your reply.
You mean that simply removing nautilus makes Solus stable again ? a simple eopkg remove nautilus -y or did you removed others packages ?

brent

SOLUS_INVICTUS Strangely I did not uninstall it. I just stopped using it. And installed Nemo.
@EbonJaeger is one of our principals and I followed his tutorial closely: https://discuss.getsol.us/d/9115-switching-from-budgie-desktop-view-to-nemo-desktop/118 including the file-roller addon and the other picture addon.

Don't listen to me though. If Nautilus performs perfect for you then use it. Some people didn't have any of the problems that others, including me, did. If it functions day in and day out with no glitches, then I don't think this app is causing your problems because you would know if it was. (it's linux so I can never say never...)