IMPORTANT: Issues with latest update / GNOME / Budgie / GTK apps

odat4

[deleted] (I didn't specify, I use Budgie) I just don't like the idea of pulling in another DE's assets just for one thing. I'm familiar with this from Arch, installing budgie-desktop also gives you a GNOME session..I prefer to keep things vanilla..so I guess I'm just gonna ride out the Nautilus bugs

[deleted]

odat4 mate-desktop is a library that is needed for Caja to function. It's not pulled in just for fun.

Staudey

brent #17 not fixed for me. drop a file and poof you're in the new folder
I have a #21 that's pretty common now

The next sync will contain Nautilus 43.1 which contains a huge number of fixes. Personally I haven't seen #17 again since the middle of November, when I added the patch to fix it, but hopefully something else in the new version gets it in order for you too (as well as #21, which could be caused by a number of things that have been fixed in the meantime). I'll keep an eye on the Nautilus repository of course to see if any relevant patches are mentioned.

odat4 As @[deleted] mentioned that package is not the whole MATE desktop or anything like that, but simply one of the basic (or THE basic) MATE libraries. Caja is a MATE project after all.
It's not very big either:
Installed Size: 3.60 MB, Package Size: 626.00 KB (could possibly be split up and stripped down, but I don't think it's worth the effort atm)

brent

@Staudey you don't get enough thanks for staying on top of this, so thank you. I've not seen your comprehensive edited update lately.
For me
#2 still a miserable experience but I'm in all the recommended themes. Is simply uninstalling/installing Nautilus an option here, or irrelevant towards a font fix?
#12 and #13 fixed for me, thanks
#17 not fixed for me. drop a file and poof you're in the new folder

I have a #21 that's pretty common now: launch nautilus but no gui/rendering/window. the dot is above it in icon bar so it's alive, and budgie seems to think there's a window there since you can put it in front of opens apps and behind open apps but it can't be seen. No frame no outline no file manager. it's active in system monitor so I know it's running.

All your advice re: themes has been followed by me (materia/korla).

Axios

I did a copy and paste to a usb drive and I had to close 4 nautilus windows afterwards.
only started with one window open. 2nd time it happened

Staudey

Axios Can you explain in more detail what exactly you're doing, and what happens? Nautilus opens three extra windows of the destination location?

Axios

Staudey Had file in my downloads folder selected it right click to copy.
Then over to my usb drive I had plugged in and went paste copied just fine no problems
But went to close filemanager window had to close extra windows never really noticed them until went to
close 3 or 4 dont remb exact Doesnt do it all the time will pay more attention on the location.
(Ahhh I can see where you coming from on the window)

Axios

Staudey I did a bios update all of apparent issues seem to have went away If you want delete my last 2 posts and your reply because I believe its a non issue now.

The only issue I seem to have is the previous one I mentioned about system monitor freezing.
Sorry for the confusion didnt know it would turn out this way.
(Thanks for your hard work and all)

brent

Still got #17. And still got the disappearing act but now it mirrors the existing window when it launches:

front window is ungoogled chrome.
rear window is nautilus. This when I right-click the icon upper left and close Nautilus that way.
I use Caja when this happens and it doesn't happen every time I launch Nautilus, just every few times.

catfishsushi

My Plasma DE was working okay, but after this latest update, the OS hangs after entering the Password on bootup screen. Is this issue related to the Kernel thingy?

Staudey

catfishsushi Since this is not relevant to GNOME, Budgie or GTK I'd ask you to create a separate thread for your issue (or alternatively to report it on dev.getsol.us with some details about your system). When you say "Password on bootup screen" do you mean your drive is encrypted, and it hangs after putting in the decryption password, or do you mean the login screen? (anyway, just put that info in your thread)
Thanks!

catfishsushi

Staudey I followed the help Center instructions and edited the boot up so I saw the checklist going up the screen. At one point it stopped, it read something like( i don't remember all of it) tsc file size error, tsc can't be read, tsc calculation error, (bios is probabbly broken). I encrypt the installation when installing. Fixed by re-installing OS, functions well. TY for looking at this. 🙂

RAinb0wStAr9938

I've found a Libadwaita theme changer to solve this problem: https://github.com/odziom91/libadwaita-theme-changer Edit: It doesn't work on flatpak apps

EbonJaeger

To help alleviate the continuing issues with Nautilus, Nemo has been included as an alternative file manager, with it likely becoming the default file manager for the Solus Budgie experience. It is in the Unstable repository now, and in the Stable repository after the next sync.

I was kinda hoping to have it included in time for Christmas, but I didn't get everything done in time. New Years is still pretty good, though! 😛

seanragout

EbonJaeger
Result! thank you ever so much 🤣

brent

EbonJaeger To help alleviate the continuing issues with Nautilus, Nemo has been included as an alternative file manager, with it likely becoming the default file manager for the Solus Budgie experience.

🤯 shocked!

what do I tell Mate? help me find the words...
asking professionally: was Thunar ever in the running?

My Nautilus got worse every update and was the only (main basically) reason I had to leave the superior experience that is Budgie.
@EbonJaeger thanks for working your a** off on this one and @Staudey you too
probably be back to the flagship edition when all kinks ironed out: edit

[deleted]

brent If I remember correctly Thunar is quite reliant on XFCE stack, so I think it's unlikely

EbonJaeger

brent [deleted] Correct, Thunar would require including 6 parts of the XFCE stack. Nemo only requires 2 from Cinnamon, plus translations. Nemo also provides a desktop icons implementation that is usable with Budgie. I don't believe that is the case with Thunar.

I wanted to go with Nemo over reusing Caja because I think Nemo looks better; it is closer to what I want my file manager to look like. Linux Mint/Cinnamon also provides a curated set of Nemo extensions (which have been packaged for Solus and can be optionally installed), giving a wider set of uses for everybody.

brent

EbonJaeger Nemo also provides a desktop icons implementation that is usable with Budgie.

That is lovely; brilliant. Trash can in the upper right and only 2-3 important things visible has been the best thing for my desktop psyche. so happy to get it back in Budgie

WetGeek

EbonJaeger Nemo also provides a desktop icons implementation that is usable with Budgie

Nemo also works well for users who might want to mount remote folders. Although Nemo (on Fedora 37 Cinnamon) isn't quite as convenient as "Files" is on Solus Budgie, it only asks for your password the first time you access your remote shares during a session.

On Solus Budgie, the shares you've mounted on your system are treated as if they're local folder and you own them. No credentials needed to access them. (Same is true of all Solus editions.)

Perhaps Nemo could even be made more Solus-like when it is integrated into Budgie?

EbonJaeger

brent it wont be enabled right out of the box; there are a couple steps you'll have to do if you want to use Nemo's desktop implementation. It's not difficult, just need to document it somewhere.

brent

EbonJaeger no hurry, baby steps. knowing that you all made the decision is good news enough

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