Ubuntu Budgie vs Solus?

tylermason

brent --two clocks on desktop on purpose? Really? What for?

Yeah that's a strange default design choice. Nothing grinds my gears more than redundant desktop elements

Brucehankins

tomscharbach but Snaps still suck 😄. In all seriousness, Mozilla and Canonical have done a lot of work to make Firefox snap better, and it shows. Hopefully all Snaps will continue to improve, but for now I'll choose native, Flatpak, or source.

brent

Brucehankins . Hopefully all Snaps will continue to improve, but for now I'll choose native, Flatpak, or source.

I had to go outside the repo to get deb chromium and firefox. I'm trying to keep it all like you said it there^

brent

Brucehankins On the bright side though, I agree with tomscharbach that UB is a great implementation.

that makes three of us then. this is like rediscovering budgie in some ways before it became hobbled.
Why can't solus budgie alleviate its problems by making Nemo the default and doing whatever ubuntu is doing to ensure complete icon desltop freedom? I did snap list last night and no file manager or desktop elements were snaps programs. I know there's an answer to that question but I forgot it.

Brucehankins Glad you like it, hopefully you don't get so comfy you want to switch permanently 😉.

this will always be linux home to me but now that you said that

tomscharbach because Snaps facilitate Canonical's objectives. My view, anyway.

I didn't know it was such a large corporation. things like that always have a mindset and a clear set of objectives to will peruse their parent site.

tomscharbach Brucehankins
what password manager do you use? there's an incredible amount of wild looking ones.

Brucehankins

brent I use the free version of Bitwarden. It's open-source and suits my needs just fine. It also has browser extensions for all the browsers I use and the mobile app isn't terrible.
Never got into the whole "hosting your own" thing, but there are some cool looking ones out there.

stalebrim

brent

Why can't solus budgie alleviate its problems by making Nemo the default and doing whatever ubuntu is doing to ensure complete icon desltop freedom?

it depends on cinnamon components

tomscharbach

stalebrim Why can't solus budgie alleviate its problems by making Nemo the default

I don't know why Solus sticks with Nautilus.

Nemo is a fork of Nautilus. Nemo forked about a decade ago to keep features of Nautilus 3.4 that were removed from Nautilus in 3.6 and following. Of course, Nemo has been on its own development path since the fork. Nemo has developed into a well-regarded file manager.

Ubuntu Budgie made the decision to cut over from Nautilus to Nemo in 2019 as a result of UB community preference for Nemo. Nemo/Nautilus preference was discussed repeatedly 2017-2019, and sentiment clearly favored Nemo, as Nautilus diminished in comparison.

EbonJaeger

tomscharbach I don't know why Solus sticks with Nautilus.

There has been on-and-off discussion for years on this and it, iirc, boils down to it's actually not trivial to package because of the things that Nemo depends on and how they all work.

brent

EbonJaeger There has been on-and-off discussion for years on this and it, iirc, boils down to it's actually not trivial to package because of the things that Nemo depends on and how they all work.

it occurred to me after spitballin that the things that plague nautilus now would do the same to nemo

EbonJaeger

brent the things that plague nautilus now would do the same to nemo

As far as I understand, Nemo has been developed separately from Nautilus for many years now. It may have started out as a fork, but I think it's become its own thing over the years.

tomscharbach

brent it occurred to me after spitballin that the things that plague nautilus now would do the same to nemo

I don't believe that is correct. Nemo forked from Nautilus a decade ago and has developed independently since then. UB 21.10 (Gnome 43 stack, and so on) was released at the end of September, and no Nemo problems have been reported in the UB forum. Nemo remains UB's file manager (see Release Notes), which would not be the case if Nemo were essentially unworkable after the 22.10 update. In short, Nautilus issues are Nautilus issues, not Nemo issues.

brent

tomscharbach I was thinking even if it was feasible that they (devs) did the switcheroo (nautilus/nemo) the things that made the last stack upgrade problematic (and nautilus problematic) would permeate the nemo app as well. I don't know how all the parts interact exactly, hence spitballin. Thanks for the concise answer, you as well @EbonJaeger .

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