tomscharbach That's specifically with no other applications running or docked.
Or I could be horrendously mistaken and should give Budgie another chance.
In either case, not being able to arrange icons would also be a no go for me (never got far enough in the process to discover that).
Solarmass It was like last month.
At this point, just assume I am an unreliable narrator or maybe prone to hallucinations 
I will say the install was fraught with numerous problems in getting the display to play nice (as documented in my numerous posts here) and WetGeek suggested Plasma might be a better fit.
qsl That's specifically with no other applications running or docked.
I'm not quite sure what you are talking about here, but the taskbar can be set to bottom, top, left, right,icon position on the taskbar is flexible, and the taskbar can be set to autohide or not when applications are open. Budgie is reasonably flexible, although not infinitely so.
qsl Or I could be horrendously mistaken and should give Budgie another chance.
Mistaken or not, why? You seem satisfied with Plasma. If you like Plasma, it probably makes sense to keep using it.
qsl In either case, not being able to arrange icons would also be a no go for me (never got far enough in the process to discover that).
The icons, both pinned apps (in my screens, left on the taskbar) and applets (in my screens, right on the taskbar) can be added, deleted, and arranged.
qsl It was like last month. At this point, just assume I am an unreliable narrator or maybe prone to hallucinations
Were you using Solus Budgie? If so, I'm puzzled because Solus Budgie has been using the layout shown on the download page for several years. Other Budgie implementations use different arrangements. Ubuntu Budgie, for example, defaults to dual top/bottom bars, with center app icons on the bottom bar, unless you change to a different desktop layout in the Welcome Center, as I did.
tomscharbach I believe he meant the un-movable desktop icons (if one were to display them).
Solarmass icons are easily rearrangeable
rearranged into 'hide' or 'show', correct.
brent I believe he meant the un-movable desktop icons (if one were to display them).
Okay. I misunderstood him. As to how desktop icons work, I have no idea. As you can see from my screenshot, I don't put anything on the desktop, and haven't in years.
tomscharbach I could be wrong
Mistaken or not, why? You seem satisfied with Plasma.
From even my brief time working with Budgie, it was obvious that it was pretty damn unified in it's approach while Plasma is more throw in everything and the kitchen sink and left you to sort out the details affair.
That type of unity makes it more intuitive to figure out how things work, especially for a new user, as long as you are in that headspace.
But if you need this here to work with this while that is going on, Plasma gives you more permutations to play with.
You just need to figure out how the hell to get there.
qsl But if you need this here to work with this while that is going on, Plasma gives you more permutations to play with. You just need to figure out how the hell to get there.
As the download page, tongue in cheek, describes Plasma: "A sophisticated desktop experience for the tinkerers."
qsl From even my brief time working with Budgie, it was obvious that it was pretty damn unified in it's approach ...
That, as I understand it, was the design intention.
Solarmass They were before Solus moved to a newer version of Nautilus and Josh found a way to nativelly implement desktop icons in Budgie. And by implement I mean they technically exist and you can have then arranged alphabetically on your desktop starting with the upper left corner and star programs by clicking or duble clicking them (man, what functionality!)
But rearranging them? I mean, if you think that going into Nautilus, opening the desktop folder and renaming the files there counts as rearrangement, then sure. You can "easily" rearrange the desktop icons.
AlucardNoir2 But rearranging them?
Oh, I was talking about the icons on the Panel. Yes, you can't rearrange icons on the desktop atm.
