share your plans

George

Share your plans for the future for example, what awaits us in solus 4.4 and in the distant future (4.5, 4.6, 5.0)

DataDrake

Phrasing this as a question instead of a command would be a much less antagonistic way to get this information 😛

As it stands, we aren't sharing plans for future releases, in part because we only want to tie specific goals with major releases (to allow minor releases to be released more often) and also because after the Roadmap fiasco some years back we're tired of people being annoyed when our plans take longer to happen than they expect.

George

Phrasing this as a question instead of a command would be a much less antagonistic way to get this information 😛

oh, sorry, of course I asked

As it stands, we aren't sharing plans for future releases, in part because we only want to tie specific goals with major releases (to allow minor releases to be released more often) and also because after the Roadmap fiasco some years back we're tired of people being annoyed when our plans take longer to happen than they expect.

Just tell us a little 🥺 for example we will make solus the first in Linux after we do this and this

JoshStrobl

You can trivially look at our post history for the items we consider most important, whether we are working on them now or intend to in the future. We aren't going to openly divulge when we would like certain items to land because that creates an expectation that we don't want to set.

George

JoshStrobl this is not a question of clear deadlines, but rather ideas, for e.g. if solus is preparing to switch to apt in the distant future, then we are not on the way (apt is terrible)

DataDrake

George We've been pretty clear on those points for awhile now. A new ypkg to make packaging easier. sol to replace eopkg. A new Software Center that works with sol and various third-party mechanisms (ours, snap, flatpak, etc.). And alongside all of that work on Budgie 10 and 11.

pomon

DataDrake And alongside all of that work on Budgie 10 and 11

Well, and when, more or less, can Budgie 11 be expected?

DataDrake

pomon When it's finished. We don't give ETAs.

George

pomon taking into account the migration to efl, definitely not earlier than in a year. but you can speed up this process. it's time to donate 😉 https://opencollective.com/getsolus

elfprince

What is the big rush for newer things, and new versions? I am enjoying Solus now. 😁

George

elfprince design of the system (not ui) thought out to the smallest detail. The system is just pleasant to use. Big plans and big ideas to help users work faster. Own development tools (for all my love for solus, it would become the same faceless copy of ubuntu as Zorin OS if it worked on apt)

h3o

elfprince exactly, future is bright but so is the present.

elfprince

George Valid points. My point was that given that this project is the product of love by the Solus devs, I appreciate the high quality of their work, and let them decide on when and what. 😄

JoshStrobl

Not really sure where this anti-apt stuff has come from but we have been consistent in stating that the next iteration of the Solus package manager will be sol. There are zero plans on moving to apt.

I would also like to mention that while all contributions through our OpenCollective is appreciated, please be mindful that these are used to achieve the wide breadth of goals of the project and building out all the technological solutions needed to achieve those goals. Do not contribute with the expectation that is specifically goes to one specific project within Solus, such as Budgie Desktop, as that is not the case. The milestones listed on our OpenCollective are for covering infrastructure costs, followed by full-time employment of myself and Beatrice. Our full-time employment would not be under conditions of working on specific parts of Solus, but rather Solus as a whole.

zmaint

I really hope sol retains a lot of the user friendly features that makes eopkg so great... like rollback, check, and such.

brent

elfprince like everyone I had my pc years and my mac years but Solus is the best OS I every operated in my life. The irony being we didn't even have to pay for it---will always be grateful.
edit: added a couple words

Scotty-Trees

To understand the future, we must first understand the past!. Solus has always been an independent distro, has always maintained a relatively small developer team, has always had an active community via IRC/forums/Twitter/Reddit etc, and has always been (from my experiences at least) a rather stable rolling release distro. Now what does all this mean? Well, essentially that's the core of what makes Solus (there are many more parts to it of course!), and time, money, patience, coding, and even more time will result in the Solus team being able to reach their goals for the future.

Now in the past, Solus devs would occasionally share their progress of whichever project they were working on (think Software Center updates being shared on Google+ for example, RIP btw). Nowadays, news will generally come out when there are big updates/releases (think new Gnome/KDE releases via blog posts). Historically it's been a bit of a blessing and a curse for the team, or a double edged sword if you will, of releasing every single goal/ambition/task for various projects. Expectations become unrealistic or misunderstood and when X,Y,Z doesn't get done, people assume all kinds of things. It becomes counter intuitive to have to take time to always correct the misconceptions, when that time could be better spent on coding.

If you trust Solus enough that you use it as your daily driver, then I would say to continue that trust in Solus as the team moves forward with their vision. But I want to know what that vision is! Well, to that I would say be patient, things will be revealed in due time when they are ready. Until then, just have some faith that there is indeed a future on the horizon for Solus.

Bare in mind, these are just my own personal opinions and in no way reflect the views of Solus and/or the dev team, I just humbly share my own interpretations and experiences as a user.