We're using different technologies, different programming languages, different toolkits, and executing on a different vision of a desktop environment. There isn't much to really collaborate on. Let's not try to force things or have a bunch of comments trying to push for it, and keep things on topic. This thread has been getting a bit out of hand.

They're always welcome to use EFL. If they're not, then there isn't really any place for collaboration.

@JoshStrobl
just wondering, this 'non-curated' gnome version you speak of, does non-curated mean that it will include those apps that are depricated or held back because of libhandy/libadwaita etc? - i mean will we get the newest versions even if they contain these unwanted components? what about wayland?

ive been playing with manjaro gnome today, and even though its at gnome 40, the newer versions of gnome calendar, weather, geary, gnome-disks and so on + wayland makes the solus gnome edition start to look a bit second rate, aged and incomplete in comparison (no offence intended - you know i love solus)

and yes i know the reasons you're not including libhandy apps

    Lucien_Lachance does non-curated mean that it will include those apps that are depricated or held back because of libhandy

    We don't support libhandy.

    Lucien_Lachance what about wayland?

    No. Wayland is not production ready and I am not satisfied with its current state or any X11 fallbacks implemented.

    It just means no theming changes will be made and no extensions will be shipped out-of-the-box. In other words, less "sane defaults" and more of GNOME's mess.

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      JoshStrobl It just means no theming changes will be made and no extensions will be shipped out-of-the-box. In other words, less "sane defaults" and more of GNOME's mess.

      It's rare for distro to ship vanilla Gnome. It might sparks interest to people who want default Gnome Experience like in Fedora but afraid to use leading edge tech like Wayland or Pipewire.

      I am SO exited for this! this seems to be start of the new period, where gtk/qt are not the only ones dominating. The only thing i have to ask would be - when can the community expect this?

        akash The best way to have a release date is to get involved in the development! Speaking of which, anyone knows a good EFL tutorial?

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          JoshStrobl Will there be exposed like workspace and windows overview? That's the only thing I miss in Budgie desktop. Whatever you guys decide, you have my full support.

          I think about this situation and this post alot and I check back frequently for updates. I also highly anticipate the changes coming, I wish there was more of a circle to keep "in the loop" about it but maybe that's just me obsessing. Very hyped for the future!