Why the Budgie desktop doesn't have its own file manager?

flyske

Instead of using a dated version of Nautilus that let the user to have desktop icons available?! Sooner or later, it'll have security holes [if not already] and problems with newer dependencies if you guys keep using dated software on a rolling-like kind of distribution.
I'm not sure if depending so highly on Gnome may lead this desktop to something remarkable in the future.
You guys could fork Nautilus like Cinnamon did and now they've Nemo or better, use other alternative that doesn't affect desktop icons, Nemo itself is a great alternative and it's officially used on Ubuntu Budgie recent releases.

All well-known desktop environmets so far have their own file manager (forked or not).
Gnome -> Nautilus
MATE -> Caja
KDE -> Dolphin
Xfce -> Thunar
Cinnamon -> Nemo
Pantheon -> Pantheon Files
DDE -> Deepin File Manager
LXDE -> PCManFM
LXQt -> PCManFM-Qt
Budgie -> Nautilus? (Same as GNOME?)

Any thoughts? Ideas?
Since I wasn't allowed to open this thread on Development > Budgie, so it goes to Support > Question area.

Harvey

flyske Instead of using a dated version of Nautilus that let the user to have desktop icons available

Umm this hasn't been the case for awhile now. Budgie has its own implementation https://getsol.us/2020/12/02/budgie-10-5-2-released/

Nautilus is up to date.

It also uses gnome-terminal and gnome-calculator 😮

Software is software, if it works, there is no problem. If the team decide that it no longer fits the need they can swap it out with something else or create their own alternative. It is not a big deal.

JoshStrobl

I can see my pigeon from December has not arrived yet, it must have gotten lost. Poor birdy. @Harvey is correct, we have our own desktop icons implementation now and Nautilus is up-to-date. I plan on writing a new file manager, it's one of the things I talk about on my Patreon and Liberapay of intending to write:

File management via a new graphical file manager, with features such as multi-pane, batch file management, file and folder tagging, and more.

Not going to fork Nautilus. I'd have to gut and rewrite more than what would be required just to implement my own. The file manager would be distro and desktop agnostic, not specific to Budgie.

downhill

JoshStrobl Looking forward to see what you come up with.

RobertTVarga

JoshStrobl Would be lovely to see what file manager would it become. All hail the in-house developments, those can be sometimes quite exciting.