Minimal option for Solus install?

XerXes

dbarron in my line of work, I also say "No" more often than "Yes", because I know how quickly the "Yes'es" add up.

I made my case and defended it. It's up to the team to consider it. And if no is no, I'm fine with it.

[deleted]

Well, I think Josh just stated it the best. I don't think an user transitioning from Windows 10 would mind the existence of Geary or Rhythmbox.

JoshStrobl

Our target is not the same people that would want to customize the hell our of their system, build loads of packages from scratch just because they can, have minimal installs, etc. Those people can install Arch or Gentoo. As I've mentioned before, our market is not the 1% that already uses Linux (or trying to woo a few percentage of that 1%), it's the 99% that does

henkesteen

Forget the Windows 10 discussion. It would be nice for people that just want a pure clean install.

This option should be available for all distros out there.

fishyman65712

I am brand new to this whole Linux thing - I don't think I even have 4 months yet. I ended up over here at Solus because it was the exact opposite of other Distros - - - which is the point of why I picked it.
Do I have to use the whole ( apt get - sudo - dd - terminal crawl down this rabbit hole Stand on your left foot while rubbing your belly ) to add somethnig that I have to go chase down from a totally different website. Then guess what nope not 5.0.1.2 you have to get 4.9.3.11 for your install and you have to get it from this site ( insert url ) / guess what the wife did , correct nothing it was absolutely lost on her. Myself I have crashed every single distro I tried that in.
I can tell a seasoned Linux user from a person with no tech bouncing around in them at all by what I have read on the help sections of the distros I have had problems with. Soon as they tell the person you want to go in to the terminal - the person is thinking I don't need a train or a plane - why do I need to go in to a Terminal ? The whole terminal was lost on me for a full month, and I still would rather be infested with Fire Ants then use Terminal.
It's not that I can't learn all of it if I wanted to, but I have better things to do then sit in front of a computer all day learning all of it. With Solus I downloaded the ISO / left click write to USB / shoved USB in computer and turned on the comp - then it self installed, left click install OS icon, left clicked through the install prompts, and done.
The system has not crashed yet, not a single error, I have yet to need to mess around with in " dd or terminal or bash files " and that makes this Old Man very very happy.
It makes my Wife Very Happy as well , and A Happy Wife is A Happy Life - don't care about the monikers or handles or nick names. I get homemade cookies, a warm meal, and clean clothes with out the need to ask or beg.

Keep Solus just like it is it is great , for those of us that don't want to keep fiddling and piddling with it after it's installed.
Souls from what I noticed as a new user of Linux proves it does not need to be overly complicated or labor intensive to end up and a working simple easy to understand straightforward install.

So much for my / no I am going to just scroll on by - I am not wading off in the middle of that.

P.S. I am running Solus Budgie on a very small resource limited notebook. Worked well enough to make this post.

JoshStrobl

XerXes Your comment has been deleted. Their post / contribution to this discussion is perfectly fine. Future remarks of this nature will result in account suspension.

JoshStrobl

Account suspended. Geez I wish people could just have civil discussions. Anyways, everyone feel free to continue this discussion. Believe it or not, I am interested in hearing your thoughts on why you would want a minimal install.

lekkerlinux

JoshStrobl I enjoyed using Antergos in the past before the project ended, because I could choose what programs I wanted during installation.

Zorin, I usually use, have way too many programs I never use. (Began to remind me of bloated Windows.)

Solus is just right for me. Not too many or to minimal as far as the program selection goes.

fishyman65712

XerXes - come on now - I was simply offering a view from a different perspective.
From a user who comes to Linux or i.e. in this case Solus with zero Linux experience.
The wife has not the time nor interest to learn all the things Linux is capable of doing.

I merely gave an example of the simplicity of the install in this case Solus. Some linux require a tad more interaction and a couple distro need a lot. Solus just happens to be more straightforward - point and click, read click type of install.

The intent is not to create anger or animosity but simply to offer a perspective from a non-linux users point of view.

EbonJaeger

XerXes I can assure you, users would buy this version like hot cakes if they could, but they can't, cos it's Enterprise only.

I think you overestimate how much the average user cares about any of that. Hint: They don't. The average user just wants their stuff to work, and get stuff done. The people who care about things like customizable software installation and minimum installs are not the average user.

dbarron

Yeah, especially when the more common attitude (I think) would be 'But why doesn't it have XYZ app installed' more than 'Oh my god, it has OpenOffice, an email client, a browser, why would anyone want all that ?'
The argument (which make it a non-argument to me) is that it's easy to install OR remove software.

nube

I am for a minimal install option. If that can't be offered, ok, I won't uninstall Solus in a huff.
I believe that the new user would typically be more successful with installing software to build system of choice.
I know from trying to pare down extras from a major distro, I did manage to " break" other program I wanted to use, and it took a while to fix. Solus is certainly not bloated compared to some distros, but an os that allows me to add exactly the software i want as opposed to removing unwanted would get my vote. Solus is my samba server/gnome keybind trainer/audio editor/ interwebs machine. I will be using Bodhi to update my audio server machine, as bodhi does offer a very minimal install option.

sangheeta

nube I believe that the new user would typically be more successful with installing software to build system of choice.

It is not the Solus philosophy at all, it's arch or something else. Solus is for users, all the majority of users need is there, Out Of The Box. Simple and clean.
Good bye "trillion packages" manager I don't know what to do with. 😂

Justin

What is the main concern for people having things pre-installed? Is it disk space? Menu entries?

nube

Justin I think its mostly choice, not disk space or menu entries.

elfprince

Justin , in my case disk space is a factor. My NUC came with a 55G SSD, and already 70% is full. I am curious how much space would a 'bare' Solus install take, considering that I hardly added any extra software. I don't consider Solus a 'bloated' distro, compared to other 'light' ones I have used in the past. It feels very minimal as is. Shaving off a few Gigs would not make much difference IMHO.

nube

sangheeta not really an issue with Solus software installer. Laid out nicely, and surely not enough software choices to overwhelm.
Can't argue with the philosophy point. I do believe that should the Solus devs ever get some spare time(hehehe) they might possibly see room for something between a gentoo/arch build it yerself, and a solid minimal install with say budgie.

Justin

@sangheeta isn't that Gentoo? 😃

[deleted]

Justin drools for the thought of ivybridge-optimized Solus build

sangheeta

Justin
Honestly, this thing scares the hell out of me. 🤣

Justin

[deleted] It's potentially possible but you'd have to put in some hard compile time to get it there.

[deleted]

Justin Wanna lend buildserver? 😉

Justin

[deleted] My desktop sits idle about 18 hours a day and has 32GB RAM so, maybe? 😃

elfprince Solus base install is very small to start with, the only thing that honestly takes up space is LibreOffice, it's huge. Take that out and that's about as minimal as you'd get.

otavioschwanck

For me, Solus is pretty minimal already, just the basics installed. Compared with Manjaro that bring 25 office suites, 32 video players, etc.. Solus only bring the necessary.

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