stylste What i would like to have is one (1) stable kernel , i don't care how the name is , which will make my hardware operatable always.

That is a literal impossibility. Nothing in software will ever work with 100% of hardware. And even beyond that, what is being talked about here is in a way seperate from Solus and will effect ANY distro using that kernel. Even if DataDrake and the rest of the solus team had endless resources and wrote bug free code 100% of the time these issues would still remain (again, on any/all distributions using that version kernel) because they are at the kernel level and not the level of the distro itself.

You even noted this yourself in your initial comment

stylste I bought my laptop late in 2018 when almost every distribution had the 4.19 kernel as default, which can't run on my hardware.
.....
That time Solus iso shiped 4.20 kernel as default and it was the only kernel that run on my laptop.

stylste It is not necessary , it is vital, in system that holds only one O.S. and receive kernel updates almost weekly ,
which is my case. It is not necessary in systems with more than O.S. installed on them , which i don't like and never
use.

Annnnnd you go right back to trying to explain to me a point of view I already acknowledged and understand. I would point out that the vast majority of our users have had no issues with the linux-current kernel over the past few years. It's only a small, vocal minority that have run into problems that we didn't catch before a Friday sync. Your assertion that this is "vital" is textbook confirmation bias and I won't give into it.

stylste There are many older posts on this forum where there is a piece of advice to people who have problems to install
LTS kernel. Does this shows something?

Yes, it shows me what I already know: having an LTS kernel is useful for allowing people to continue to use their system while we sort out regressions in the mainline kernel.

stylste When one installs Solus does he knows that there are different kernels and if so can he install what he wants.If later one install LTS kernel he does so not as a matter of choice but as a matter of need.

These polling results show the opposite. The majority of people who responded have installed linux-lts as a backup in-case of an issue with linux-current, not because they encountered one and needed to work around it.

stylste What i would like to have is one (1) stable kernel , i don't care how the name is , which will make my hardware operatable always.

And I want to end discrimination, poverty, world hunger, and to have a million dollars in my bank account when I wake up tomorrow. All of these things are more likely than a piece of software as large and complex as the Linux Kernel to be free of any bugs whatsoever. This kind of reliability has only been proven with formal verification of a fair few microkernel designs and even those don't have guarantees of any of the drivers or other software functioning perfectly.

stylste [Of topic
I have been using linux exclusively since 2004 and never had kernel problems until last year. That kind of problems
sometimes make me considering to switch to another O.S ]

If you are that easily swayed by buggy software, you will never find an operating system that works for you. It doesn't exist. While I agree that the 5.X series kernels have had more regressions than I would like to see, there's still an incredible amount of that code that continues to function without issue. Most of what we have seen are a few hiccups with drivers that were mostly resolved quickly or the odd breakage of bluetooth protocols and filesystems. Most of which Solus caught and fixed before the new kernel was released or within a few days of the problem being noticed, prompting an early sync to fix the problem.

Now, I've been very patient thus far in my responses to you and at this point, I would ask that unless you have further feedback about your specific experiences with the kernels that you wish to share, that you let other people take a turn responding. Otherwise, you have said your piece and I, personally, don't need to hear it repeated. Thank You.

    DataDrake

    DataDrake Now, I've been very patient thus far in my responses to you and at this point, I would ask that unless you have further feedback about your specific experiences with the kernels that you wish to share, that you let other people take a turn responding. Otherwise, you have said your piece and I, personally, don't need to hear it repeated. Thank You.

    I Understund.
    I don't argue with anyone.I respect your work and your effortless contribution.
    Something last from me and you will never hear from me again.
    You took a step creating budgie. Take another and listen to your your users. You do not know how many
    gave up after a failed first boot.
    Thank you for you let use out of your effort for free.
    Goodbye.

      stylste I don't argue with anyone.

      Except you have been arguing with me.

      stylste Take another and listen to your your users.

      We do. Even when they are being rude.

      stylste You do not know how many gave up after a failed first boot.

      I can't always fix that. I can't know what I don't know that I don't know. But when users report problems, people certainly do try to help fix them for everyone, myself included.

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        DataDrake You're my hero,a very good person and we know that you always made a lot of effort to keep Solus the best OS in the world, don't bother to reply to people that is rude.

        I promise that in a near future you will receive a good contribution for all the love that you put in this beautiful OS. When you enable donations and publish Solus 4.2 I think that then it's going to be a really important chapter in Solus History 🙂

        Going to 5.4 would mean that people that have older laptops with nvidia cards and optimus will have to face screen tearing all the time with nvidia drivers installed (which most likely will be 390.xx series since the newest drivers don't support many older cards and it's probably a risk to run it, then again i don't if the issue was solved in the newest drivers). At least this is an issue that i got after linux-current was upgraded from 5.3 to 5.4 on Solus (when 5.4 was first introduced and later reverted due to various issues - https://discuss.getsol.us/d/3240-screen-tearing-returned-after-latest-updates. And the sequel when 5.4 was re-introduced and the issue remains till this day: https://discuss.getsol.us/d/3432-screen-tearing-returned-once-again-after-the-latest-updates). For past few months i used mostly LTS kernel and screen tearing can be managed there with echo "nvidia-drm.modeset=1" | sudo tee /etc/kernel/cmdline.d/50-nvidia-drm.conf
        sudo clr-boot-manager update
        , but on linux-current, that doesn't work anymore. I am not knowledgeable about linux and nvidia drivers and don't know if it could be fixed in any other way on my laptop and i haven't found a solution for that, so i still use LTS since this happened and at least there is no screen tearing. I do have both kernels installed and boot into the linux-current occasionally to check if this was somehow fixed, but it seems that it isn't and (probably?) won't be.

        So for now i chose "I had a bad experience with linux-current updates". I wouldn't be very happy with return of screen tearing on nvidia with 5.4 (for me it basically means that there will be no difference between the linux-current and LTS will be used for backup), but i guess you have to move forward. So whatever the decision is, i will respect it. At the worst scenario i will go back to Intel drivers (i don't know what the current situation with screen tearing is there though) and dual boot to windows to play games if i want.

        Please either keep a package for a 4.X kernel or make install a kernel like Liquorix or Zen easier, my computer for some reason can't boot into "default" 5.X kernels.

          I'm not expert in this subject, but i'm suspecting that the kernel that Solus 4.1 is using right now is creating some issues. I tried so hard to install a fresh install of Solus 4.1 Plasma and Budgie, and finally gave up (my issues are related here in this post https://discuss.getsol.us/d/4931-unable-to-boot-solus-4-1-after-a-succesful-efi-fresh-install
          However today i took time to look for and old Solus Iso, i found the Solus 4.0 Budgie ISO and tried to install it in exactly the same way.
          Magically it booted right away without problems after a fresh install. However after aplying the Requiered Updates, i am left with a white blinking cursor when trying to boot.
          I was reading that many had issues, so maybe it is related somehow. I am using a Ryzen 2200g processor, a uefi compatbile motherboard and an nvidia gtx1060.

          Scupake We have no plans to ever support a patched kernel like Liquorix or Zen. I feel dirty enough having to patch ours for proper AppArmor support, let alone having extensive patch sets to audit on top of normal kernel changelogs.

          DataDrake
          In Oct 2019 I got rid of Win7 and started heavy using Solus. It is working rock-solid on LTS kernel (with one issue -- display remains dark after hibernation woke).

          Hardware: ThinkPad X201s
          CPU: Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7 L 620 bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 4096 KiB
          Graphics: Device-1: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
          Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution:
          1: 1600x1200~60Hz 2: 1920x1200~60Hz

          When I boot current.5.4.12-143 or current.5.6.18-155, DE in couple minutes freezes (Caps Lock LED blinking).

          8 days later

          So I am kinda lost now...
          @DataDrake, did the solus team decided to upgrade the LTS kernel or not?

            Getta91 I've been in the middle of a sizable Haskell upgrade all week, so kernels haven't been on my mind. With everything else being upgraded this sync cycle I also didn't want to introduce even more churn. Based on the feedback I have received, I would like to upgrade to 4.14 for awhile while 5.4 stabilizes or the next LTS is announced, from there I will decide whether or not to upgrade to 5.4 or the latest LTS. We will skip 4.19 entirely.

              13 days later
              7 days later

              I just got a tuf a15 that runs a 4800h and 2060 and Solus 4.1 won't boot (some ppm issue). The only OS that work on it are Fedora and OpenSUSE, so I am using fedora for now. But, I really want to get solus running on it. Solus saves me so much time because I can access my network folders from every piece of software because the Solus mounting utility is so easy and powerful. The OS is just a breeze. Can someone let me know if i would be able to put the iso on a USB with Balena, and the update it is live to try and get a newer kernel durring install. I think with the 4800H you need at least 5.6.3. I really can't wait until that is available with Solus OS.

              PS Solus is running great on my thinkpad T450, and two T5500 with dual xeons, which is impressive range of hardware. Kudos to the people that made this!!! No more copying and pasting back and forth from network, or mounting to fstab in terminal <3

                holski What you could try is install Solus in another Laptop or PC, update the system and then just swap the m.2 to your A15. Otherwise we have to wait until we get a new ISO 🙂

                13 days later

                I just updated mine Linux Kernel and after reboot i get screen saying something bad happend with logout button.I am using solus budgie 4.1.
                How can i switch to LTS version of Kernel
                AMD® A4-3330mx apu with radeon(tm) hd graphics × 2 with 1.5 GB RAM.