What is your favorite Solus edition ?

dbarron

And they also allow you to do a 'reset' on your installation, which is somewhat desirable if you get too package install, compile crazy.
I appreciate that part of doing a reinstall (as well as checking out new installation programs).

kyrios

AlucardNoir that's your point of view but reality is another thing.

After Solus 3, no ISOs were released for a very long period of time. Since it's a rolling release only new users should eventually care but it appeared that actually Lot of people (among which many claimed to be Solus users) kept on asking about new release date.

arkhenius

Outside of Solus branding (which one can add themselves, for the most part) and some quite minor issues, I do not understand what is not complete about the Plasma release? I am writing this using it right now and have not realized any lack of implementation of the Plasma desktop compared to, say, Kubuntu or Manjaro KDE. Have been using it for the past half a year or so too.

yursan9

arkhenius Maybe @Girtablulu is a perfectionist. ( ＾∀＾)

abelinux

JoshStrobl here's my toast 🥃 for those who do as opposed to those who say 😉

lallmon

I think Budgie is the value proposition of Solus.

If I was going to run Gnome or KDE , I don't think Solus would be the distro I picked.

JoshStrobl

lallmon

arkhenius

lallmon Not many distros boast the speed and sensible rolling release structure of Solus though. Personally, if I did not use Solus I would either have had to use Clear Linux for its speed (not very end-user friendly for day-to-day use), or build by own Arch system and personally compile a lot of packages/libraries with optimization flags.

Completely beside the DE point of view, I view Solus itself (the backend, with all its curated packages, stable rolling release cadence, speed, etc.) as probably the most solid desktop Linux distribution around. I honestly do not think the DE should have any importance in the distribution choice. What's the difference between using Plasma here or on Manjaro? I would say it is in the backend. What is stopping me from using Ubuntu Budgie, if Budgie was the main point? Because Ubuntu as a base is not attractive to me, for example 🙂

lallmon

JoshStrobl 😂 That's kinda what a poll is.

Fragmenting the fragments is the FOSS way though, so it's not surprising.

lallmon

arkhenius And I find that Solus backend to support the Budgie DE better than many other Gnome based distros even support Gnome. There's a balance between speed and usability that Gnome shell seems to lose in the distros I've tried. I find my DE to be super important. GUI UX is a second class citizen in the FOSS world, so any distro that has an edge is ok in my book (though the multi touch screen support in Solus is nonexistant it seems). How my comments got mistaken for criticisms is super weird. I hope the focus isn't removed from Budgie, but if community members have that time and drive, more power to em. However, If I just wanted rolling release I'd go Manjaro, if I wanted just UX I'd use Elementary.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Justin

lallmon What would lure you to Manjaro over Solus?

lallmon

Justin My overall priorities include Modern Hardware Support (HiDPI, touchscreen, accelerometer, stylus), Desktop Integration and Ergonomics (UX), Package Selection, and Community Support.

Manjaro's appeal is the focus more on user community and stabilization of the varied Arch packages, that give you a much wider array of software rolling release, rather than Solus' strangely "curated" approach. I also don't really know Solus' focus, or actual target market. Maybe I should give Ubuntu Budgie a chance 😄

For example, my first touch point to the community: Solus flat rejected Firefox Developer Edition to the package repo, even though it really is a separate tool (I am a UI Engineer for Red Hat, and I concur, it's my go to development tool after code editor). https://dev.getsol.us/T5781

I thought the responses from the community in that thread were respectful and comprehensive, additionally a community member offered to build and maintain the package for Solus.

And the response from the Solus was team was "You can easily just download the tarball.", which like...you could say for basically everything. 🤔

stalebrim

lallmon

For example, my first touch point to the community: Solus flat rejected Firefox Developer Edition to the package repo

Yet it's available as a tarball you need to just extract and execute.

kyrios

lallmon Solus targets desktop computer users and more specifically the home computing segment (source: home page of the official site). 😁

Regarding Firefox Developer Edition, I agree with you that it's kinda strange to have Vivaldi stable & snapshot or Chrome stabe/beta/dev but only Firefox stable while it got a different engine, but Chrome for example is a binary package and it offered through the 3rd party repository which means no need to have frequent long builds and it can be updated independently from the ongoing activities on the main repository.
Unlike what you say, using the tarball isn't straightforward with basically everything (but it is with firefox), otherwise why would people work on universal packages solutions like flatpak, snap or appimage for example ?
Also a developer probably know how to extract & run a software from a tarball while this might be complex thing for a casual user, so the question to ask is should this be a priority ?
Manjaro relies on Arch which has a huge community. Solus should control its growth as it has a relatively small team and not so many contributors. What would be the point of growing fast and not being able to keep things up-to-date?

Now if you don't want to work with the tarball because it's annoying to download & update manually all the time, snap packages are available and also (unofficial) flatpak packages provided by Fedora/RedHat maintainers. Perhaps this could be a better alternative for you?

JoshStrobl

@lallmon Do you use Solus? Everything you've written on the Solus forums seems to be just entirely pro-Manjaro, pro-Ubuntu Budgie, pro-RH, etc. with no actual research done into the project. 🤔

lallmon

JoshStrobl I run Solus Budgie as my daily, I work for Red Hat, and have a partition that I audit others on for about 3-ish weeks. I'm pro Linux.

And I find that Solus backend to support the Budgie DE better than many Gnome based distros even support Gnome. Sounds pretty Solus positive to me. I only talked about Manjaro because someone literally asked me about my view, directly.

So you can believe I'm not a fan of Solus because I have an opinion about it's strengths and weaknesses, but that isn't the case.

SOLUSfiddler

To hell with all your fighting about your favorite desktop environments!
I'm on Budgie as it's the reason I wanted to give SOLUS a try when it was new. And although it may still have a few bugs here and there Budgie is still one of the snappiest and slickest-looking DEs around.
It works well on my Thinkpad W530 / Nvidia&Intel Optimus setup, so why use anything else?
Sometimes I get another SSD, pop it in the laptop to try out a new distro or a new flavor of a distro, and guess what?
I always come back to Budgie.
It's as simple as that.

And I installed SOLUS Budgie on my 17-year-old daughter's laptop and on my sisters laptop who has MS and needs something she doesn't have to worry about.
It works. They like it.
Thanks for all your work, guys!

SOLUSfiddler

tobcro

SOLUSfiddler To hell with all your fighting about your favorite desktop environments!

I could not agree more. Since this is Linux:

Tweak it your own way, hell, even rebuild/redesign the way you want it. Just for you.
Feel free to suggest or share your preferences to others, but then you cant be pissed off if others disagree.

Just be nice and grateful that someone is actually doing something that others can benefit from. Free.

edivan

Budgie. Is perfect to me.

harelt

Budgie 😃 😄

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