When will arrive the new updates?

Getta91

Can someone tell me? I thought it was already in the repo T_T. Thanks

WetGeek

Getta91 Can someone tell me?

It depends. Usually on Fridays, except in unusual cases (when lots of preparation is required). But exactly when on Friday depends on your time zone. Folks in Japan won't get 'em the same local time as someone in the US, or Britain, or ....

Girtablulu

between now and never.

just wait 🙂

lekkerlinux

At the end of Friday?

darknetmatrix

here they are installed

JoshStrobl

WetGeek Folks in Japan won't get 'em the same local time as someone in the US, or Britain, or ....

Or Finland, which is where I am located, and it's rare that I'm not the person doing the sync 😛

v3l0ct

JoshStrobl There's always a price to pay sir

lekkerlinux

My update got stuck and could not fetch something. I'll try again on Saturday, to cross the Finish Line!

elfprince

lekkerlinux Just use the terminal: sudo eopkg up and if it gets stuck, just do it again. It will continue from where it left off. No problem.

lekkerlinux

elfprince Yes, thank you very much Elfprince. I tried the software center first and then after the second try with the terminal, everything updated and installed fine.

A bit later I got another update notification for Firefox 73. I was just thinking, why was the latest version of Firefox not included in the update and there it was.

I wonder which member of the Solus team can read minds?

elfprince

lekkerlinux Same here! I noticed that Frefox wasn't in the first update, without worrying about it. But then came the second one - Firefox! haha

brent

elfprince yeah, I just noticed the red desktop bell. FF and Etcher for me. Forgot I had the second one installed. thanks both & team

Thaeris

...COUGH...

Are there any specific technical reasons to use the terminal over the Software Manager? I wrote my wonderings on that in another thread. Wouldn't needing to use the Terminal, because the GUI borks something, just be a sign of bad shell implementation, or something of the sort? Pardon me if the jargon used above is inaccurate - I'm a new guy.

On another note. For reasons I can't provide, I decided to update everything today. Because my Linux machine is not yet my principal platform, I figured it couldn't hurt. In any sense, today my function key adapter + F-keys don't seem to work as I remember them working before the update. Now, it's ONLY the F-keys that control volume, or what have you. Maybe the fn-key did nothing in the past on Solus, in retrospect, but now it actually keeps the functions I expect to happen from happening.

To summarize, pushing fn-F7 does not do anything, but pushing only F7 will lower the volume. It's like functionality has been reversed, unless the fn-key was not even recognized before in the past. Could this be due to the kernel update?

WetGeek

Thaeris Are there any specific technical reasons to use the terminal over the Software Manager?

Yes. Occasionally a mirror will time-out and hang the update process, especially if there are huge packages being updated, like libreoffice or the Linux kernel. With the software center, it just stops updating without much of a clue what happened.

With eopkg at the CLI, you can see when the download stops. When that happens, you can enter Ctl-C to exit the process, return to the previous command with a press of the up-arrow, and restart the download. So it only takes a few seconds to recover, and eopkg skips quickly to where it stopped, and continues from there.

How often this happens depends in part on the capabilities of the machine being updated. My workstations seldom need a restart. My laptop sometimes does.

Thaeris

That's interesting, and still a little above my head, but I'll get there. I have no idea how the GUI translates commands to the OS - which really should be exactly what the terminal is doing as well. I do think it's rather fascinating as to why the GUI seems to fall short in this area when, ideally, it should be executing the same functions as you might call up with the Terminal. Huh. There are bright minds that will figure it out before I even wonder where or how to look.

WetGeek

Thaeris I have no idea how the GUI translates commands to the OS

It doesn't. It transmits commands to eopkg at the command line. Updating from eopkg just eliminates the middleman, and makes it easier to see what's going on and if necessary, to recover from a download time-out.

When you've tried it once, you'll see how easy it is. It doesn't take a software engineer to use the command line.

EDIT: A little more on this. The mirror is a remote server that exists to provide local downloads. They exist in various parts of the world. Someone in Australia, for example, doesn't need to download updates from France. (Just an example to make the point. I don't know where all the mirrors are.)

When the mirror server times out because of a huge download and maybe because it's overloaded, the Software Center doesn't handle the rejection very well. From the command-line, though, it's easy to see when the download progress stops.

When you see that happen, just press <Ctrl-C> to break out of the traffic jam, and press the up-arrow key to repeat the command you just entered, and press <Enter> to execute it again. It seldom takes more than one such restart to finish the downloads.

The command to upgrade from the command-line is sudo eopkg up. As simple as that.