Tesla CyberTruck

brent

DataDrake Agree with every word except:
*I have much more faith in the consistently -observed (not random) anecdotal evidence of a local citizen than you do
*you have much more failth in a civil planning/civil engineering degree that I do🙂
as far as the conundrum, thank you. you did not offer a moral conclusion. As I give every position credence, I will confess to the many moral perspectives in this thread, I did not know how I stacked up:

DataDrake use public transit to reduce their environmental footprint, to reduce wear on their vehicle.

for me at the end of the day it's this ^^

DataDrake

brent Anecdotal evidence for phenomena that cover long time-scales is worthless. You'll never build up enough data to get a meaningful correlation. Instead, you are intentionally introducing a bias that creates a misrepresentation of the the actual phenomena. Any data you then present has the potential to do more harm than good when trying to improve the situation.

If you really want to understand the dynamics of a route, you would need to be tracking ridership all the time. This is the kind of data that the bus company does collect and uses to optimize their routes. Municipal bus services are paid for by tax dollars so they absolutely have accountability to the tax payers. They don't have a profit motive in this case, but they do still have the incentive to minimize operating costs. If you think that your local municipal bus service is sub-optimal, you are free to petition for access to the data and make a case for their mismanagement.

There is no morality to facts.

sgvd

John-Poot
Just with a 5 minute delay as the driver of the F350 has to de-ice the windows first 🤣

brent

DataDrake I would've took a simple "well that's just your opinion, man" but all good.

JoshStrobl

So...that truck eh? coughs and looks at the topic

kyrios

JoshStrobl

kyrios My god, it's uncanny how similar it is! 😛

judd

I apologize, but ... I really don't like it at all.
I prefer a Hummer or something cheaper like a good Ford Bronco with an unalterable V8 within 5000 cc.
🙂

brent

judd Like I say, I try to do my part for the environment BUT unless one has driven a V8 (AMC 360) and experienced the sheer joy, it's hard to purge it from one's mind🙂 and cast too many judgments there...

WetGeek

My problem with public transit is manifold. It doesn't start anywhere near where I live, and doesn't go anywhere I want to go (without multiple transfers and waiting). I can't carry a week's worth of groceries on a bus, and if I could, it won't stop and wait while I carry said groceries into my house. (See also: "... doesn't start anywhere near my house.")

Local public transit has changed the price of my car's license tabs from $30 to $336 per anum, even though I never use public transit. License tabs are still $30 by law, but my car can't be licensed without also paying the additional transit tax. Most of that transit tax is supposedly to pay for "light rail," which looks to be obsolete by the time it's up and running. (We're years away from that.)

There are even more reasons why I don't use public transit, but I'm not here to start a fight. That should be enough commentary from me for now.

brent

WetGeek Public trans unfeasible (didn't exist) anywhere I lived rural USA. For me trying to help the environment that way is pretty much stricken from conscious in the wild. You know what equipment you need. In the city right now, and I don't think I'll get on a bus or light rail for a long time (covid).
Sorry your tabs went up so dramatic--that ain't right.

WetGeek

brent I try to do my part for the environment

Yeah, here too. I drive a hybrid, we recycle everything we can, and our electricity is from hydro. House is small and well insulated. Our "organic waste" (grass clippings, etc.) is all composted. Even our lawn mower, and weed whacker are battery powered, and thus cause zero emissions.

So I do my part for the environment, too. Public transit, though, just isn't for everyone. And those of us who don't benefit from it at all shouldn't have to pay the transit authority extortion.

kyrios

To get back on topic, I don't think (and I hope) the Cybertruck will not be successful in Europe. Not only it is ugly but also the cities are very close to each others and the speed limit in the cities is going lower and lower so what we actually need is much lighter cars. Despite of this cars manufacturers focus their advertising campaigns on SUV and of course most people buy them.

JoshStrobl

I've removed some inflammatory comments related to politics, per enforcement of Observe Topic Guidance as stated in our Community Guidelines.

George

Tesla looks like that between Jeep Wrangler and Batmobile

kyrios

They will obviously make a smaller model with rounder shapes for EU.

grozavoron

It's fascinating to see how Tesla's journey has evolved over the past three years, and they continue to be at the forefront of electric vehicle technology and innovation.
Looking back to when Tesla unveiled the CyberTruck three years ago, it's amazing how far we've come in terms of electric vehicle design and innovation. The CyberTruck was a real head-turner with its futuristic and unconventional design. It felt like a glimpse into a sci-fi future.

davidjharder

grozavoron Hi grozavoron, please don't post on really really really old threads that are not active

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