Staudey holy moly, they have a 1144 page comic to explain the concept

It was probably written by a lawyer, LOL.

Staudey In these times where society has lost the importance of its principles and rights, privacy must be taken into account. Especially in GNU / Linux. At Solus I have several study methods, but I can't get away from Google or for as long as I want to.

And Vivaldi, but that's another story. 🤣

16 days later

Not going to lie. As I wait for the new Kernel so I can boot with the ISO, my desktop is running pretty smoothly with Fedora 35. Actually surprised how much I like it. I have Solus on my other machines but current ISO does not work with my Radeon RX6600.

I switched to Fedora 35, and then to Mint. I do miss Solus, but the last update gave me just a black screen. I just want simplicity at this point. Mint does that for me.

2 months later

I think I will test MassOS. Do you know it ?

    olivir First I've heard of it. They say they are a completely independent distro (not based on Debian/Arch/etc.), and if I understand correctly they achieve this, among other things, by relying on flatpak and AppImages for packages, instead of a native format. At least that's the impression I get from this:

    https://github.com/MassOS-Linux/MassOS/wiki/Post-Installation

    olivir when spring distro hopping I tried MassOS. It exists as a live .iso so I flashed it and explored it. Brought nothing new to the table IMHO and forgettable. 2 cents.

      brent when spring distro hopping I tried MassOS

      It sounded interesting, and XFCE is one of the DEs I used for a while on openSUSE, so I thought I'd give it a try in a VM. I created one, providing at least twice the recommended resources. The installer program seems a little primitive, but it's functional.

      At the end of installation, it reminds you to remove the installation media and reboot. I did that, and it rebooted to a black screen. After waiting a reasonable time, I did a reset, which usually closes and launches a VM, but this one just generated a critical error.

      I reinstalled the .ISO file into the virtual CD drive, and did another installation. The results were the same as the first time. Two installations, followed by two failures to launch exceeds my upper enthusiasm limit for a VM, so I deleted it with prejudice.

      Your mileage may vary. I assume that some users have successfully installed it and got it to run.

        My choice of a non-Solus* distro has changed over the years, and currently it's Ultramarine Budgie. After experimenting with it in a VM, I was impressed enough to install it on a spare laptop and configure it as a daily driver.

        My only complaint is that, as a Fedora descendant, it enables 156 unit files at startup (compared with 3 for Solus), so startup is very slow. So is shutdown. But while it's up and running, it's beautiful. Using .rpm for package management, just about every interesting software is available. And dnf is as convenient to use in a terminal as eopkg is for Solus.

        * I sincerely hope I never hava a need for a non-Solus distro, but this thread starts with "If not Solus".

        WetGeek so I deleted it with prejudice.

        That is what i call a righteous delete. I didn't bother installing it. Now I have openly criticized online reviewers of Solus for wasting 5000 word critiques without ever having to install and use it....so I feel hypocritical dissing the MassOS iso...but it just wasn't interesting, subjectively speaking; you missed nothing imho.

        Ultramarine is a beautiful non-Solus distro. Glad that has been a good #2 for you. I read the owner had to abandon the project so hopefully someone steps up.

          brent I read the owner had to abandon the project so hopefully someone steps up.

          I heard the same thing, but since then, there's been a constant stream of updates. At least as often as Solus updates, because every time I do a Solus update, packages need upgrades for Ultramariine as well. So, apparently someone (if not several someones) stepped up to the challenge.

          They're still on Budgie 10.5.3, I think, but that hardly seems to matter in actual usability. I'm pretty sure that will be updted when there's more of a reason to do so ... like when Budgie 10.7 is released.

            WetGeek Well, the same for me, I failed to install it in a qemu virtual machine. 😢

            WetGeek So, apparently someone (if not several someones) stepped up to the challenge.

            There is at least one contributor to Ultramarine Linux active in the BuddiesOfBudgie chat. So, it seems like the project is still at least somewhat active.

              Staudey So, it seems like the project is still at least somewhat active.

              Indeed. After installing today's sync, I fired up Ultramarine, and did an update there. Lots of new package upgrades were done, including the latest Vivaldi. Apparently the reports of its demise are very premature.

              Still no threat to Solus, of course. It still takes forever to boot and shutdown, due to its Fedora base.

              WetGeek For those who like to explore interesting distros, Pisi is certainly one you'd enjoy taking a look at.

              Just a followup ...

              A couple days ago I got a couple of emails telling me that the Pisi bugs I'd reported there had been resolved. I figured it was worth another look, so I downloaded a new .ISO file and created a new Pisi VM. Or, I should say, I tried to.

              After selecting US English as my working language (their default is Turkish, of course), I noticed that the installer has been improved significantly. At the end, though, I couldn't actually launch the VM. It just booted to a CLI login. And after logging on and running startx, the screen became trash.

              I always offer a second chance, so I reinstalled the new Pisi .ISO file and tried again. I left that .ISO in place as I rebooted at the end of installation, planning to let the installer start again before I tried to reboot and launch Pisi. That's sometimes worked with other VM installations, but not this time. Pisi simply doesn't start with a GUI that works.

              That's the end of my interest in Pisi for now. Maybe I'll try again in a few months. Surely this kind of persormance won't escape the team's attention.

              6 months later

              just Solus actually convinced me to leave Void behind, funny enough. The boot times and runit are just unmatched, but it really did feel like a server and not a laptop for those many years I was on it.