If not solus, what distro would you be using

Staudey

brent That is a very old article about happenings in Solus' past, not about anything currently going on.
Serpent OS (not Lispy Snake, that is his game company) is indeed made from scratch and not based on any other distro / package manager.

brent

Staudey Ack, didn't notice date.

WetGeek

WetGeek Pisi is certainly one you'd enjoy taking a look at.

In fact, I'm logged on from Vivaldi on Pisi right now. There were just a couple of beta-type bugs that I reported to the Github bug tracker.

I was able to modify /etc/fstab to include my NAS shares, and modify /mnt to provide their mount points, but unable to actually mount them. Neither nfs-utils nor nfs-common were in the repository. A search showed that libnfs was there, but after I installed that and rebooted, i still could not mount those shares, despite the description from pisi info nfs that said that libnfs would allow mounting nfs shares.

And despite setting Vivaldi as the default browser, Pisi still used Firefox by default. I needed to add the Lastpass extension to Firefox in order to log on to my account at Github to post the bugs.

Hopefully those will be fixed in the beta.

WetGeek

brent Ack, didn't notice date.

Ack, ack, ack, ack. Reminds me of an alien from a movie i watched. Can't remember the name.

brent

WetGeek "All your base are belong to us. Ack."

murbert

WetGeek

brent

Yeah, what that "Alien Attack," or something like that? I remember there was a sequel, too.

brent

WetGeek Whenever I hear Ack and alien in the same sentence there is only one Alien I think of: Dick Solomon.

It's very likely we are on the wrong thread again.....🙂

WetGeek

WetGeek For those who like to explore interesting distros, Pisi is certainly one you'd enjoy taking a look at.

My Pisi adventure was fun for a while, but unfortunately, it seems that no one is seriously working on making it viable. I reported some beta issues I'd found, and every time I checked back, my reports were still the top three in the list. And the number of issues had not changed.

I tried to join the Pisi forum, and provided all relevant info, after which I was told to look for an email with a link I should click in order to "activate" my membership. (Typical email verification.) By the nextday that email hadn't arrived, so I added another report noting what happened, and letting them know that if that process was automated, it was apparently broken. I actually got a response a couple of days later thanking me for the report, and telling me that their "web team" was working on it. But as of today, the email still hasn't arrived.

As I said, it was fun for a while, and I thought that Pisi ("cat" in Turkish) looked like it had a lot of potential, especially as a distro supporting Budgie, but it seems to be virtually abandoned. Such a shame. But since I'd encouraged others to take a look at it, I thought I should follow up with a retraction. Probably not worth your time.

elfprince

WetGeek This possibly could be a one person project, or a very small team? Juggling work, life and the project can be challenging.

WetGeek

elfprince This possibly could be a one person project

Yes. And I understand and appreciate that. And maybe I'll check back with them in another year or so. (It only takes me 4 or 5 minutes to create a VM.)

But after encouraging others to take a look at Pisi, I wanted to make it clear that this probably isn't a good time to do that, after all. Their experience would almost certainly be the same as mine.

tilaran

WetGeek
Problem with virtual machines(and girlfriends) is the equipment isn't real.
Put that distro on a disk and "uh oh"...may show up before you ever get the thing installed.
I looked at the calendar today. 2022.
SSD's are beer cheap and you can cut and remove partitions as often as you like with no issues.
These tuberz.."Oh this distro is great ! "
Yeah. On a VB.
A poor unknowing soul (Billy boy W10)has to find out real hard that 180 out of 200 on distrowatch are nothing but garbage

WetGeek

tilaran Problem with virtual machines(and girlfriends) is the equipment isn't real.

I'm not sure what your problems are, but I'm thankful that they're not mine. My programs on VirtualBox VMs perform just a tiny bit slower than on my i7 laptop host itself (a TINY bit), and they display on its full HD screen exactly as the host machine does. I'm replying to you from my Budgie VM now, and I can't tell the difference. At human speeds, there simply is no perceivable difference.

I'm sure the performance difference would be more noticeable to a compression utility, or a compiler, but not to a forum, an email client, or a word processor, or most of the other applications I use a computer for. Thankfully, I have hardware machines for those purposes.

Your message sounds like you've never actually used VMs, but have a strong opinion about them, regardless.

elfprince

WetGeek Perhaps he alluded to the potential problem of a distro not running on hardware installation, but ok on VB?

WetGeek

elfprince Perhaps he alluded to the potential problem of a distro not running on hardware installation, but ok on VB?

Seems unlikely, but not impossible. Perhaps he'll clarify that for us. If that really is his problem, maybe he should just make his hardware a VM host, and create VMs for his daily use?

tomscharbach

elfprince Perhaps he alluded to the potential problem of a distro not running on hardware installation, but ok on VB?

I suspect so. The problem with virtual machines (and I currently have 11 available in Gnome Boxes, Zorin 16 Core permanent and the others referential/experimental temporary) is that virtual machines frequently mask hardware issues.

Brucehankins

WetGeek I've had many issues with Fedora. Runs great in my VMs, but won't run at all or runs like garbage on metal with my hardware. I haven't tried Silverblue or some of the community spins, but I also don't really have any desire to.

I've recently got my oldest son on MX Linux XFCE, which he seems to enjoy. Main reason was some of the software he needs is only available for Debian/apt and I want him to learn Linux before trying to compile from source first. Looks like a very nice distro though from what I've seen.

WetGeek

Mars Attacks! Yeah, that was the name I couldn't remember when I wrote that. I think it was the best combination of sci-fi and comedy that I've seen so far. The sequel, perhaps not so much.

tomscharbach

Brucehankins I've recently got my oldest son on MX Linux XFCE, which he seems to enjoy. Main reason was some of the software he needs is only available for Debian/apt and I want him to learn Linux before trying to compile from source first. Looks like a very nice distro though from what I've seen.

I find myself in the same spot. I need to run Microsoft Edge on the laptop I use at the railroad, and it has become clear to me that Microsoft is not going to develop either a Snap or a Flatpak version any time soon.

I am temporarily using Zorin 16 Lite (XFCE) and it is working fine, but I'm looking at Ubuntu Budgie, Lubuntu (LXQT), Ubuntu MATE, and Xbuntu (XFCE) for a longer-term solution after 22.04 is released, because Zorin 16 is based on 20.04 LTS and will not move to 22.04 LTS until the summer of 2023.

The laptop is low-spec (AMD A6/R4, 4GB, 32GB) but ran Solus Budgie acceptably. I suspect, given Ubuntu's general sluggishness, that I'll not be able to run Ubuntu Budgie comfortably on that laptop.

A side note: Ubuntu Budgie lists 60GB hard drive space as recommended. I asked about that, and got this response from fossfreedom (one of the team members of both UB and BuddiesOfBudgie): "Most distros quote out of the box requirements. This isn't realistic. When folk use a desktop, lets say for 2 or more years, all sorts of apps are installed together with lots of data accumulated. 60GB is a fair figure in a realistic real world calculation." An interesting observation on his part, although I comfortably run Linux under 30GB except on my primary Solus desktop, where Gnome Boxes distro images eat up 197GB.

Brucehankins

tomscharbach I'm a huge fan of Lubuntu. It works wonderfully and it's very light on resources. It can get a bit heavier if you start adding Plasma bits and bobs, or switch to a wm like kwin, but out of the box it's not bad so those are more for aesthetics. Another big plus for me is it's a Qt desktop, which I prefer to GTK desktops or something like Awesome or i3.
On a side note, LXQt doesn't handle HiDPI scaling very well. It does great with Qt apps, but there isn't a way to scale GTK apps that I've found yet. So, if you run it on a large 4k display, it can be hard to read sometimes.
If resources and apt are your main concern, I'd check out MX too. It was idling at around 675mb with the graphical DE and htop running on our desktop, so resource light, and it's based on Debian.

tomscharbach

Brucehankins I'm a huge fan of Lubuntu. It works wonderfully and it's very light on resources.

I think so, too, although the desktop is a different motif and is taking some time for me to work with comfortably. As I understand it, 20.04 is LXDE, 21.10 transitional, and full LXQT implementation coming with 22.04. I think that I'll focus on Lubuntu 21.10, building several instances in Gnome Boxes with different adds/removes, testing and probing until I get it right. That way I'll be ready to cut over to 20.04 in May with minimal fuss.

Brucehankins It can get a bit heavier if you start adding Plasma bits and bobs, or switch to a wm like kwin, but out of the box it's not bad so those are more for aesthetics.

I'll be using the laptop 3-4 hours a week, and only at the railroad, so I'm going to add Microsoft Edge, remove Firefox/Trojita, LibreOffice Draw/Impress, and other unneeded items, but otherwise run out-of-the-box. I want to stay as light as reasonably possible, given the laptop's specs and I'm content with basic.

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