confusing between many distros , solus, manjaro, mx Linux , Arch........etc
may I know why you went directly to solus ?
hope this topic not issued before
why Solus not others ?
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- Rolling distro. Updates every week. I like that.
- Stable. Everything is curated and tested to maintain stability. I like this too.
- Small, but very passionate community. I like the people I've met along the way since using Solus. I like you guys!
- It's Linux after all, but more importantly it's built from scratch, so it's not based on Ubuntu this or Debian that.
- The Developers. I always greatly appreciate their time, effort, and work they put into this distro to make it fast and stable.
My personal opinion is that Solus has some of the best developers around and I have full confidence in their integrity, commitment, and passion for this wonderful distro. A bit biased? Perhaps! But still out of all the distros I've tried, Solus works the best overall for my workflow.
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Hah, my reasons are nearly identical to Scotty's.
Basically, what I wanted was a stable and user friendly rolling release Linux distribution. I'm after stability, as well as current relevant versions of packages.
Solus offers me all of that.
My current Solus install is six months young and going strong.
Arch based distros are too unstable for my liking, with my luck, my installs (I'd used Antergos) barely ever made it past 3 months (I reinstalled every 3 months).
If I were using Ubuntu, I'd have had to install Ubuntu 19.04 in may, and then upgrade now to 19.10. Upgrades between major Ubuntu releases rarely ever went totally smooth for me.
On Solus, I just roll.
I've never felt as safe and content with any distro, as I feel with Solus.
There are some extremely minor quibbles (tbh it's just one for me - I just want to finally get dat current Nautilus version, as I don't use desktop icons anyway), but the advantages of Solus heavily outweigh the disadvantages (and every distro has its downsides).
thanks for your comments
which environment you prefer for me ?
I want one can customize everything and add many tweaks coz I like thems and tweaks all
thanks
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My main requirement for an OS that should replace Windows, is that as a main driver it needs to be able to function normally without extra hassle (terminal stuff) unless experimenting or other superuser stuff. Solus was the only distro that actually didn't require any terminal work before I could start a game or watch a movie.
Ubuntu suprisingly I needed the terminal to identify that it missed some libs for basic computer stuff. Fedora needs some community repository which was a hassle, Manjaro (Arch) didn't boot, etc.
The stuff mentioned before are nice advantages as well. Had some issues while experimenting with the OS and there are some very knowledgable people here willing to explain and help.
I use KDE Plasma btw
Debian/Ubuntu based distros are no longer an option for me. I use it for Servers, yes but not at home. It is just annoying for a Desktop PC also used for gaming.
I need rolling release... but the "arch way" comes with work you have to do to maintain your system, none is doing it for you, you have to do it yourself. Especially when using lots of stuff from the AUR. Which you will need to, otherwise you miss out on software more than you would on other distros not using "arch/AUR". AUR is good but also a risky place to install software from and you have to research, read, look for everything to not have trouble on the next bigger updates.
If I am not mistaken, the Solus devs have a kinda similar stand on the AUR thing. Of course there is Manjaro, and I also used it a lot over the years. But I think there is no benefit for using it instead of just using ArchLinux if you really want to have a bleeding edge rolling release Distro. Actually, Manjaro broke after updates more often than any ArchLinux install I have used before.
So, at home, I do not want to mess around with this stuff when I have to do this a lot outside of home on servers. At home I want a stable good running desktop distro which is curated by competent people. The Solus team does a very very good job on that. Weekly updates, (with big updates taking 2 weeks, which is more than ok and understandable as it is a BIG update.). I like the stand of the Solus team on simple things which I pretty much agree on almost all of them. At least of that what I've read over the last months and years.
And I really like Budgie, and who makes and made Budgie? Right.
And I think there needs to be some contrast to Debian/Ubuntu, Fedora and Arch based distros etc. So I like to "support" it.
Which distro would I use when Solus is no more tomorrow? I don't know actually, maybe I would go back to ArchLinux and live with the negative aspects of it. Maybe I would test Tumbleweed more out.
See Scotty-Trees words. I use Gnome from day one. Perfect.
Greetings, Evert.
Gotta agree with Scotty as well.
1) Solus is rolling yet stable
2) Budgie is gorgeous, sure it may not have the customization of plasma (which you can use on solus if you want) but it still facilitates everything I need
3) Developers actually have a clear vision for what they want and stick to it which I feel a lot of distros could learn from. If you want a desktop, use a distro made for desktop (i.e. solus) if you want a server then you should use a distro made for servers (i.e. centOS or a BSD derivative). There is no reason for one distro to try and be everything.
I wound up going to solus because it was the only distro that actually worked and didn't break itself on a regular basis. I started on linux mint which worked well until it decided to break some internal config file making me have a lovely full screen splash of errors whenever I booted. Then I went to Manjaro which lasted for about 2 days because nothing worked with each other. Some things needed an AUR package which would then complain about a standard repo package, etc. The whole thing was a mess. Then I tried Fedora, which worked alright outside of demanding restarts after every single update. It felt like I needed to restart my computer after turning it on everyday. Then I tried to use opensuse tumbleweed which I couldn't even get all my software I need set up (look up rstudio dependency issues with tumbleweed) and their forum was extremely toxic regarding help. Then I went to Ubuntu Budgie because I liked how budgie looked but it again had issues and I didn't like how aggressively Canonical was pushing snaps especially in clean installs.
Which then led me to Solus. I was initially worried about it having all my packages (due to old out of date reviews) but not only did it actually have everything I need (bar one single package which has a flatpak) but the setup process was the easiest of any of the distros and I have yet to have anything break even slightly.
My biggest negative about solus is simply that I cant donate to support the developers themselves (but that has been discussed to death on these forums)
I run Solus on my desktop and Manjaro on my laptop, i like the contrast.
Scotty has it nailed.
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3mmar
Its more a matter of Plasma having more settings, Plasma is well known for this. So many settings it can be overwhelming. So if customisation is what you want, Plasma is likely to be a better experience.
I do think Plasma themes are some of the worst out there however. When I tried to find one, I hated 99% of them and the one I did like caused things to crash so... yeah custom themes are annoying. Girtablulu has been working on making a better default at least.
If you want to install Plasma the new ISO is linked to from here: https://getsol.us/2019/03/17/solus-4-released/
Note: It is in testing and defaults to the unstable repository. The unstable repository requires you to be careful about when you update. You have to connect to Solus's IRC channel specifically #Solus-Dev and look at the channel topic to make sure there are no warnings saying not to update. If you don't do this and update at the wrong time, you can have major breakages including not being able to boot. This repository is where all the testing is done so at least theoretically it could be less stable.
Alternatively you can switch your system to the stable repository after installation.
sudo eopkg ar Solus https://mirrors.rit.edu/solus/packages/shannon/eopkg-index.xml.xz
An then update your system as normal.
3mmar
All of the environments on Linux are customizable, it's just that some are more customizable than others.
It's just that when it comes to customization, KDE is king. It's just overflowing with options.
GNOME takes the second place, and Budgie the last (no idea how MATE compares tho).
If customization is really important to you, you should definitely try KDE. However, if it's not the most important feature for you, just choose whichever environment seems the most cool by default for you, and go from there.
If you'll stick with Linux, you'll probably end up trying various environments anyway. So just pick any, and begin exploring.
There's no telling which one you'll end up preferring the best, as everyone's taste is different. What works for someone, might not work for someone else.
For example, I'm a GNOME lover, but it seems to garner a lot of hate online. It goes to say, that everyone should pick whatever suits them the best.
Junglist MATE is extremely customizable. Just take a look at some of the themes available in Ubuntu MATE. It has settings to make it look like Windows, MATE 2, Unity, MacOS... I wish other MATE releases had that built-in.
I'd had issues with MATE though. I seem to break things a lot more frequently in MATE than other DEs. I want to like it because it's so flexible, but only Ubuntu MATE has all of the themes available from the start. Mint's release seems very stable, but doesn't have all of the features available like Ubuntu.
What I would say is that I chose Solus because it was easy. A lot of other distros out there require a bit more finagling around to get things working just right. I had this problem a little bit with Manjaro (the first distro I used for any significant length of time), and it's a big part of why I left Manjaro and went to Solus. Now as far as the other easy distros out there, distros like Linux Mint, or Ubuntu Mate, most of them are not rolling release. Meaning their software may or may not be as up to date as Solus. They may have more options to choose from in terms of applications you want to use, but many of them will be redundant, and as I just said they may or may not be as up to date as what you get with Solus. The main advantage of Solus over it's competitors is that it offers a small stable and up to date repository of software, while other distros either tend to offer large up to date unstable repositories, or large not up to date stable ones. Solus strikes the balance giving just the amount of software you need whilst maintaining stability and frequency of updates.
As for what Desktop environment? The one with the most customization options is KDE Plasma. However, if you are new to Linux I would give you a word of caution about Plasma. The Plasma iso still isn't an official version of Solus yet. It's currently still considered testing. Further KDE (in my experience) tends to have more releases that can be a bit wonky than the gtk based environments. If you go with KDE you may, on rare occasions, be faced with an odd bug or two that you have to deal with. I don't mean to dissuade you. I use KDE Plasma on my main pc right now, and I love it. It's great. It's just that occasionally it will give me a problem I have to deal with. For example, for the past little while Kmail (the default mail client if you use KDE) hasn't wanted to work properly with my Gmail. There was once a long time ago that a KDE update got pushed that somehow managed to bork half the KDE applications on my computer. These things happen rarely, not enough that it's bothered me, but your mileage may vary. I'd say KDE is overall a more complete, but a slightly less smooth experience than some of the other desktop environment options.
Both the Budgie, and Mate environments are relatively easy to customize (using Gnome Tweaks, and Mate Tweaks software respectively), and will give you a bit of a smoother simpler experience. So if that's what you're looking for then I'd try one or both of them out. I personally run a distro called Debian using Mate on my laptop so I can vouch that Mate is very very good. I also used to use Budgie a long time ago, back when I first started using Solus. It was really good then already, and from what I've heard it's only improved since. Both of these are easily customizable and easy to use. They may not have the sheer girth of options KDE offers, but they get the job done.
The Final option would be GNOME I don't know that I would recommend this to new Linux users or not not. It can be a bit finicky to customize, and it's a completely different desktop paradigm from any other environment I know of. It is very unlike windows, and I'm not even sure it's that similar to Mac. Only use GNOME if you're looking for something completely different then you're likely used to. I used GNOME for a few months before switching to KDE early this past year. It was enjoyable, interesting, and elegant. However there was a slight learning curve due to it's different paradigm of use. I had a few issues with it being a little slugglish, but I've heard that these have recently been resolved. Gnome is good, but strange, worth trying out, but very different from the others. Also it's probably the least customizable .
Honestly I would advise downloading all 4 versions of Solus, and then trying each of them out in turn. You can do this by just running them off a usb stick. You have to do this before you install anyways. when you plug the usb stick with the solus iso on it into a usb port and select it to boot from when you turn on your computer you will be taken to a live environment where you can try it out before you choose to install. It will likely be running a little more sluggishly like this then it would once you install it, but it would be good enough to get the feel for which environment you'd feel most comfortable with. Also keep in mind that people on these forums (as far as I can tell) tend to be eager to help each other out so if you run into any roadblocks when installing or afterwards never be afraid to post here, or even over on the reddit page for help
A lot of great replies here but OP never said their level of experience (linux) or comfort level or background.
I think I should make all my questions this poetic. There is an uncompromising beauty in the simple question but it's probably google translate.
My response: I chose what I call the "scrappy independent" for one reason, no, two reasons: easy on the eyes and functional.
No distro ('flavour') I tried had both. Plus the independent part was the sell.
I don't think I've explored 1/10 of Budgie's customizability, if that is a word.
See Max_The_Bear : mate workmanline and a nice bridge. When official I can see KDE in my future. Gnome an acquired taste (why is desktop always yelling at me?)
All this stuff you can tweak to your heart's content without forcing your way into an admin position (I think). If you get in a jam you will be helped fast at the forum.
I use Solus because you all force me to. I'd much rather be using EvolveOS.
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JoshStrobl Poor Josh, we know he's so pliable.
About a year, a year and half from now, i knew nothing about linux. What I was looking for:
- good looking DE
- not asking me to learn everything about computer architectures and science to get it installed and usable, ie plainly working
- not bloated, as few features as needed in order to enforce 2.
- Updates: rolling release and actively maintained so that I would not have to change in a foreseeable future
- scalable: I intend to learn linux and change the few things that I find myself needing that would not already be shipped so I need sensible documentation, people willing to help me. Solus have both, plus being based on 'standard' linux, there's a whole world of already solved problems to look into (systemd, gnome…)
I tried a few other distro, none of them provided me those points, at least not as seamlessly. Solus' dev vision of a DE just makes sense to me.
Max_The_Bear If you don't want to go that route, you can test Budgie, GNOME, and MATE right from your browser.
cynical13 Please no. Test it through actual hardware like we intend and actually support.
Sorry, thought I was helping.
I do not think that I am able to add anything new to the discussion, but I still want to express my delight, that Solus, this small, independent project, is able to deliver a distribution that does some crucial things right in my opinion.
The world of Linux is one of choice and fragmentation. While this is in one way a beautiful thing, it also is something that led to Linux being in its own way. Instead of putting a lot of manpower behind a few mainline projects, there are thousands of them and a lot of them more or less orphaned.
I likewise get the feeling that distributions are prone to what in software development would be called feature creep. By supporting all those packages, applications and desktop environments, the distribution is never really able to polish a unified experience, it's just spread too thin personnel-wise.
What I now like about Solus is the fact that it focuses on package curation, on a polished experience, has a rolling release model so that once installed, it can be run forever, that it opts to offer GUI-driven solutions for common tasks instead of plunging new users deep into the depths of terminal commands.
It's great that Linux offers the user the option to use all these powerful command-line tools, but I also think that it's very much overdue, that everyday administrative tasks for home desktop systems do not require command-line input. This was true back when I first started using Linux in the early 2000s and it is even more true now. That the Solus team just gets this is the reason I have decided not to distro-hop and stay here for hopefully many years.
JoshStrobl = = a comedian
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3mmar
There was a ton for me to learn coming right to Linux with no pre-conceived idea of Linux better or worse.
I started at Linux Mint Cinnamon - to a bunch of what everybody else said would be the greatest thing since sliced bread. To be left felling frustrated about all things Linux, some just crashed, others I could not get to install, a few required tweaks or modifications with terminal. Stumbled across a forum mentioning Solus Budgie you won't regret it, January it will be a year of use. I let it do what the install wanted, followed the prompts, clicking next did the restart as instructed and have not looked back.
Have been Solus Budgie advocating - run away from Windows bashing ever since.
ender same as mine. I knew nothing about Linux, I just use as complementary with Windows 10 (Dual-Boot).
First time installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 4 years ago for tasks in college. That was my first impression about Linux especially Ubuntu. It's like fancy glowing OS than Windows (because it's Gnome DE). I use Ubuntu 14.04 for nearly a year before started getting bored because some bugs, high RAM consumption, boring DE, etc.
Then I started to distro-hopping to Debian, Linux Mint, Deepin, vacuum for a year, and then Ubuntu Budgie 16.10 for half a year before I switched to Solus after I learnt Budgie DE made by Solus. Since then, I feel so comfortable with it's simplicity of DE, light-weight OS, curated rolling release, less bloated, fast update, simple learning curve, nice community, etc.
I have a plan to look another OS intended to switch. BUT, I don't think I can find Linux OS as good as Solus.
- Solus (I'm using Budgie flavour) is beautiful, it has this perfect blend of usability and eye candy for me and on top of that it's very, very light. With little tinkering Solus Budgie use the same resources as Xfce 4.14!
- Solus is a rolling release done right. I like Arch but updating it daily can be a pain. Weekly update schedule is simply more right.
- Solus is independent
- Solus is truth.
Because it's the best?
- because of Budgie and default look (only distro for me with theme that needs no customizing, it's beautiful)
- it's not bloated like Ubuntu
- it's not company, like Manjaro now is https://www.news1.news/2019/09/manjaro-changes-its-structure-to-respond-to-the-challenge-of-its-popularity.html
And, I bet You didn't heard this one before...
It's The best sounding distro I have ever heard (with Gnome MPV only) on my FineArts/ScanSpeak combination.
As soon as I played some FLAC I was hooked.
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I'm going to try this distro for the first time. I hope its stable enough because I dont want to spend time fixing the issues in the system.
Rolling release + stability = totally the future of Linux. Not bloated system, very cool too.
The only, perhaps, down side is that eopkg may not offer great software variety availability like others distros.
The only, perhaps, down side is that eopkg may not offer great software variety availability like others distros.
Actually, it's more like a good thing, for stability and security, we need packages to be updated and fixed frequently, so abandoned applications are removed, and not so good alternatives and forks that changes only the name will not enter the repository.
Because of this selective packaging, they always offer the best suitable application and other two excelent alternatives for variety... it's not like we need twenty different image editors, if the best ones are already here.
And of course, this is not so bad, today linux distros are becoming more and more globalized, like the world we know, not only we can compile and install from source code, but we can use appimages, flathub/flatpak, and the "other" alternative by canonical.
Soon or later, using linux will be a matter of choice of company, the team behind it and the decisions they make, and the in-house software technology. Of couse, Solus wins this competition by a far length, they care about the user, and always prefer to have quality over quantity.
Also Sol
and Budgie 11
are coming.
I think I fear I may face some need been unsupported some day, like if I want to use some old hardware, like a webcam or other, and dont find the driver to it.
I like the rolling release idea very much but I tried Manjaro a year ago and it was a very bad experience. Is was unstable out of the box and after 3 days trying make it more stable I gave up. I couldn't reach a satisfactory state. After that I installed Debian which is very stable but it always uses too old software.
I just want a rolling release distro that doesn't break easily. I'm gonna try Solus in my next install.
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I had experience with the Budgie desktop and really liked it! I was looking for a semi/rolling release and why not get Budgie from the upstream source on top of a problem free core without all the upgrade drama .
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Budgie brought me to Solus OS. The Budgie desktop is is clean, minimal, well-designed, almost instinctive user interface. Budgie brought me to Solus, but Solus OS -- designed from the ground up and laser-focused on the desktop whatever desktop environment is preferred -- is why I stayed.
Solus isn't dragged down by legacy cruft or bloated with "all things to all users for all purposes" artifacts. It is clean and efficient. The software repository is curated, which appeals to me because it is not loaded with hundreds of indifferently maintained apps of dated design and marginal utility. I have yet to find an app that I wanted to use that wasn't in the repository or available as a Flatpak. Solus OS is stable and rock solid, unlike many other rolling releases. The kernel, applications and security fixes are always up-to-date, but updated only after careful testing, so Solus is stable. I've not experienced an update breaking anything since I started using Solus.
Solus is a remarkable release, and the team that develops/maintains it is exceptional.
Just like @Shadoware I had problems too with Manjaro. It seemed an update would always break something or a software package would become unstable enough to cause glitches and I'd end up having to backup and reload my computer. I ended up swearing off any flavor of Arch because of the instabilities.
I've watched Solus over the years but never really gave it much thought on using it until this year. Tried it first in a virtual machine and was surprised at how fast and smooth it ran. Had no issues so I decided just to do it fully.
Doubt I'll ever do any other distro now.
Honestly, it just works.
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- it's not another fork of anything else, independent distro
- beautiful default theming
- easy to install software, lots of stuff in default repos, snap and flatpak work just fine
- Windoze stuff works with just Wine, no need to use PlayOnLinux, Lutris or use some voodoo rituals to make things work
- new versions of popular software and latest kernel by default
- good choice of default apps
- seems stable enough
- clean, not bloated with tons of software most people will never use
And active and helpful community that will not treat you like you're some retarded newbie. (because some Linux people can be really unpleasant like they live in a dark, cruel, RPG game reality where you need to slap everyone in the face to show how manly you are)