Tresorit VS pCloud

dlalinsp

Justin It is not very 'private', Justin. I want something that provides a high level of privacy while being affordable and easy to use. Google Drive is way off the mark! Thanks for the suggestion, anyway. I appreciate it. 😀

Justin

dlalinsp Private clearly has different meanings for some. I see it a lot in Linux communities.

dug

dlalinsp It is not very 'private', Justin. I want something that provides a high level of privacy while being affordable and easy to use. Google Drive is way off the mark!

Tresorit is closed source and hasn't been audited as far as I know. That being said, I used it for a while and it worked great on Solus.

nodq

dlalinsp Does it really matter what cloud you use? I wouldn't trust any cloud, no matter who it is. So at the end of the day you encrypt your stuff anyway before uploading to "somewhere". But if you just don't like google (which I totally understand, I don't like them too). Maybe try to host your own "cloud" on a NAS for example. Or try Keybase.io, they give you 250GB free and it is E2E with pgp and has kinda good integration into the system without the need of syncing any files. The client for Linux is in the Solus Software Center. https://keybase.io/docs/kbfs and https://github.com/keybase/client

dlalinsp

Justin Interesting...! Any examples?

dug Thanks! I knew that it was closed source but I did not know that it hasn't been audited. What do you think about pCloud?

sgvd I explained the reason why I don't like NextCloud or self-hosting in the first post. I don't have a server and I don't want to be digging up information on the third party servers. I need something that is a bit more easier, bro! I hope you understand.

nodq 😁 Yeah! I don't like Google. Thanks for understanding me, bro!

nodq So at the end of the day you encrypt your stuff anyway before uploading to "somewhere".

Great advice! I think I'll take it. I checked out Keybase. It looks like there is no GUI for Linux. It seems a little too complicated to use for me. Thanks!

sgvd

I actually moved from jottacloud to a nextcloud provider (hertzner, german). I am really happy with nextcloud as it supports many services I had separate third providers for (tasks, notes, password manager, etc.). So in the end it was a cheaper option as well.
Also, nextcloud is in the software center and works like a breeze on solus.

Also, some Nextcloud providers actually support E2E encryption, although I am not sure mine does.

Justin

dlalinsp This is an example. Just look around at the millions of I don't trust Google etc threads.

dug

dlalinsp What do you think about pCloud?

Never tried it.

nodq

dlalinsp There is an UI, Keybase is in Solus Software Center. For the File system there is no need for more UI. It is integrated in you Filesystem of your PC/OS. In this particular example, your Solus. Just hinting, if you missunderstood something maybe.

dlalinsp

Justin Hey! It is true that I don't like Google but I also don't trust anything else very easily as well. I usually try to use something that has a verifiably high level of security and privacy. Privacy for me means that no one else should have access to my stuff without a valid reason and explicitly asking me. That is how I roll, bro! 😎

dug Thanks anyway, bro! 👍️

Justin

dlalinsp The only level of privacy you're going to get is self-hosted and offline. There is no true privacy once your information hits a public network.

Bouquins

I just installed pCloud on Solus two days ago, since Dropbox told me I wasn't allowed to have more than 3 computers synced anymore. As far as I have noticed, pCloud works like a charm on Solus, and is far more fast than Dropbox in uploading files.

Justin

Bouquins Nice. I moved off of Dropbox in the last few days for exactly the same reason. I moved to Google Drive for mine but may try pCloud.

Justin

Ah, lifetime pricing, as tempting as that sounds it usually means they won't be around for long as people fill that up and then never have to pay again, no recurring revenue for these types of services = death.

dlalinsp

I am glad to be of some service to you, guys! 😄 I tried pCloud too but I didn't like it. The product is good and it does what it is supposed to do. However, it makes using encryption and zero knowledge a headache! 😰 I wonder why they gave that as an addon service? Anyway, both sync and share don't work in the encrypted folder. I have to pay for that separately as well, if I continue. It is not worth it. Apparently, it will be a long time before we get those features in there. Hence, I am going to take Justin's advice and stick to using offline storage. I might check out Tresorit in the future, though. Thanks, guys!

elfprince

I use Mega and Dropbox. I do encrypt my own private data, even though they both have end to end encryption. Just to be on the safe side. I find that using a browser (I use FF) with Mega is very easy, and Dropbox has a desktop app for Solus.
Mega is free, and Dropbox is very reasonably priced. Of course, I only transfer from/to my PC, no other devices (for now).
:-)

dlalinsp

elfprince I am kind of an amateur on Linux and privacy related matters. So I would like to know how you encrypt specific folders or files before syncing or sharing? 🤔

elfprince

dlalinsp Openssl and gpg, I keep it simple.

Harvey

I would assume they use veracrypt

Basically the application creates an encrypted container that... contains your files.

So you might have a file /home/username/volume1 Open it in veracrypt an its a mountable encrypted volume that contains your data. You enter a password to decrypt it and / or you can add things like a keyfile as a type of two factor authentication to unlocking the volume.

dlalinsp

SOLUSfiddler Hey! The main reason that I don't want to use MEGA is because it doesn't have a native app that I can use on Solus. Using web apps are inherently less secure than using native apps as explained in this blog post by the ProtonMail team: https://protonmail.com/blog/cryptographic-architecture-response/ (Check Claim 1). Secondly, I heard that the 50 GB they give is only valid for a period of 6 months and it defaults to a maximum free storage of 15 GB after that period is over. It also ranked low on Cloudward's list for best cloud storage services on Linux: https://www.cloudwards.net/cloud-storage-for-linux/. I checked several reviews and none of them particularly favoured MEGA. I also got the hint from several reviews that MEGA is kind of shady. I am not sure but I can't verify it. Hence, I don't use it. I hope this explains it to you. Thanks for asking, man! 😃

elfprince It doesn't sound simple to me, bro! 😂 Why don't you use the archive manager to just create an encrypted version of the folder as described in this article: https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/encrypt-files-on-linux/? Isn't it simpler? 🤔

Harvey I checked it out. Thanks for the suggestion, dude! It does seem like a lot of work, though. I don't want to partition my local drive into volumes, either. Could you explain to me how this allows me to keep my stuff on a cloud storage service secure? I am not extremely tech savvy and it is not very clear to me. I will appreciate it if you can explain it to me. 😄

kyrios

ZuluCrypt is good for this as well.

SOLUSfiddler

dlalinsp
Hi!
Can you explain why you wouldn't want to use https://mega.nz/?
Their service (chats, messaging, data sharing) is E2E-encrypted, you get 50GB free (!) storage space, and their interface is superbly translated if you need something else than English and it is very well designed. Keybase on the other hand is a design catastrophy.
You don't need a binary, you just use it by going online with the browser of your choice and login.

I can highly recommend MEGA! (No, I'm not being paid by them!)

SOLUSfiddler