Audio "goes to sleep" when there's no sound for a second.

Mr-Spongecake

Just gave it a try. The pipewire stuff did restart as there was no sound for a few seconds but then it came back on. There's still that issue where after a second of silence, I still hear "ront left" and not "front left" due to the previous issue.

Clintre

It was worth a try. It is one of the older tricks to help lag.

Mr-Spongecake

I do appreciate the help. Just outta curiosity I checked with my consoles because I don't remember my computer when it had Windows doing the same thing. The audio warm-up doesn't happen on those. Although would another thing that could cause this be SPDIF? That's how I have my computer hooked up to my headset.

Clintre

Mr-Spongecake It is possible. I do use spdif myself for my DAC, but I am repairing my DAC right now, so I cannot test.

There are some advanced configs for pipewire that can improve all of this, but I have not dug into that in a while.

Mr-Spongecake

OK, so after a little bit of trouble shooting I think I found the problem. It's something to do with my headset or the way Budgie handles SPDIF, because when I plugged my headset's base box in by USB and selected that, the windup was gone and I could hear the full audio. Is there something with how Budgie uses SPDIF, by chance? I think it might be that, or how my headset base is handling it and I'm trying to eliminate possibilities now.

Weird thing, though is that when it isn't plugged in via USB, then the option for Digital Output - SPDIF is gone and I only have SPDIF Output - USB Audio. With the second one selected, the warm up is there but with the first one it isn't.

Clintre

Ah just looked it up. There is an issue where the first second of audio is missing. Because it is a digital "unidirectional" stream, it is particularly prone to certain types of lag and "handshake" issues. It is usually more noticeable if you are using more than stereo.

I am seeing if there is any configs to help with that from my brother, if he is awake as he has a big setup for his work.

Mr-Spongecake

It's not really a full second of missing audio. Try to imagine that after a second of silence, someone turns the volume on your output all the way down, then when you press play then they turn it back up quickly to it's original volume. This happens in like the first 5th of a second after sound starts playing. So with a trance beat I was working on, the first base kick initial hit is missing, but if I restart it without pause then I can hear it fine.

Clintre

Mr-Spongecake It is just what they call it. It is really anywhere from 30-100ms depending on a lot of things.

Solarmass

So you have headset's base box with usb and optical (SPDIF) input? What headset is that?
You have this problem only via optical (SPDIF) input, right?

Mr-Spongecake

Ah, I gotcha. Well, like I said, I found a solution but it isn't ideal. I just need to have the USB of the base plugged into the PC and then it works fine, I get two options in the sound outputs section, one is Digital Output (S/PDIF) - Arctis Pro Wireless (that's my headset) and the other is Analog Output - Arctis Pro Wireless. Those two options don't have the missing audio. When it's not plugged in, I lose those two and only have S/PDIF Output - USB Audio. That option does have the missing audio. I kinda wanna have my USB free for my consoles, lol.

I also have my monitor outputs but I'm not using those 😛 .

Solarmass

I am using optical (SPDIF) and haven't noticed this problem.
You can try to disable audio driver power management:

just add this options snd-hda-intel power_save=0 in /etc/modprobe.d/snd-hda-intel.conf and reboot
https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=342091

I wonder if it will solve your issue.

Mr-Spongecake

Solarmass Is that specifically for Intel audio chipsets? I don't think my mobo runs that chipset. I also don't have that file or directory. Should it be created?

Solarmass

Mr-Spongecake I guess it should work for any mobos that have optical. Yes, create this directory and file with text as root and reboot.

With this option the red light will always shine 🙂

Mr-Spongecake

Solarmass I'll probably give that option a try tomorrow. Right now, I'ma just use it by USB so the audio is fully there and not missing the first fifth of a second. I'll let you know how it works when I try it.

Solarmass

Please try it, I have a good feeling about it 😃

Clintre

Solarmass Going to be trying this when I get my DAC working again as well. Thanks for mentioning that.

Solarmass

Clintre I noticed this with my amp - if no music is playing it shows that source is not available till you start playing again. It turned out that there is no red light at that moment. This power_save=0 option fixed that. I think it should be on by default or be in the Sound settings at least.

Mr-Spongecake

Just added the file and created the line. Rebooting now.

Mr-Spongecake

It didn't work. Sound still cuts out after a second of no use then has to ramp up volume again.

Solarmass

thanks for testing! I am out of ideas, it could be specific to this headset problem 🤷

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