hopefully my last dumb budgie-goes-to-wayland question

brent

When Budgie abandons X11 architecture and replaces it with Wayland..
how does that shake out?
I do an update and every single X11 component is deprecated and removed during the update and re-welded (celtic magic) to Wayland all like poof! in my existing OS?
or..
Brand new .iso and brand new install only? Or am I not considering a 3rd option?
was thinking about this today (probably too much) and had to ask. thank you.

Staudey

brent I do an update and every single X11 component is deprecated and removed during the update

Just to be clear, in case you don't only mean the X11 parts of Budgie apps themselves, your system will still need a lot of X11 components, if only for Xwayland (for legacy apps) to work. So it's mostly just xorg-server itself that will become redundant.

Harvey

I do not see why it would not be like every other update.

XFCE added experimental wayland support, you just updated. We defaulted to X11 on Plasma for a long time and had Wayland as an optional experimental package, when we changed to default to Wayland, users just updated that is it.

brent

Harvey ok did not know it would be that easy.

so long ago I tried xfce. filed 100 bugs then bolted! i know it's come a long way.

I tried 'experimental' wayland in arch cinnamon and you remember that game show where you picked 1 of 3 doors and only 1 was correct? except all the doors in Wayland you picked had brick walls behind them. there was no winners or prizes just brick walls

EbonJaeger

I put this in Off Topic since it's not really a support request. It doesn't really fit here, either, but we don't currently really have a general Solus category.

brent

EbonJaeger please mark Harvey best answer. this one is solved. (the switcheroo occurs in a normal update.) thanks Ebon.

Harvey

Can't set best answer because its no longer got the support tag so that feature does not work. I'll just mark as solved.

brent

Staudey Just to be clear, in case you don't only mean the X11 parts of Budgie apps themselves, your system will still need a lot of X11 components, if only for Xwayland (for legacy apps) to work. So it's mostly just xorg-server itself that will become redundant.

actually I needed to know that, thank you. I forgot the bridge Xwayland is already here on budgie. That Solus proper will still rely on X11 components I did not consider. Thanks Staudey.

Is this frankenstein-ish? Or do they both co-exist in the same OS on lots of distros? (Always had the impression it was one of the other, not both). edit-typo

Harvey

brent

It is the way it works.

X11 was a display server. Wayland is a display protocol.

If applications do not support Wayland it will fall back to XWayland. Which is a partial implementation of X11 for compatibility purposes.