Canon printer prints double sided "upside down"

AAxios · 3 Jan

My Canon MF733cdw prints fine double sided no issues
Note PDF printed with document viewer.

Bbrent · 3 Jan

banger just tried Long edge and Short Edge flip on my TS5350a and it doesn't seem to make any difference it is upside down with either option.

Edit: Just printed a PDF 2 pages from the Canon App on my Android phone and the long edge 2 sided printing works correctly the print is correct way up.

Axios My Canon MF733cdw prints fine double sided no issues
Note PDF printed with document viewer.

axios you print correct from your desktop.
banger cannot print correct from his desktop (only the phone).

what's the difference between you guys I wonder? canon software? something else?
edit: this out there, but DE a factor?

MMarvinMinsky · 4 Jan

Hello guys!
Some thoughts about your contributions:

any printer prints sheets in the same way, "top - down";
if the sheet is to be printed on both sides ("long edge flip"), the print must be reversed;
the data to the printer will be reordered by the print driver (I doubt that the printer firmware will take care of this, it would be too complicated).
THEREFORE, the problem is in the driver.

AAxios · 4 Jan

MarvinMinsky I would delete the printer and go install it with the cups
browser interface (localhost:631)
Thats how I started setting my printers up and seem to have less problems.

Note make sure its using the (canon-ufriilt-common) driver

AAxios · 4 Jan

brent I just selected long-edge and printed it worked fine.
My guess some difference maybe how printers where setup from start.
Mine uses the (canon-ufriilt-common) and it works fine.
Am to burnt out over holidays my mind hasnt caught up yet..lol

Bbanger · 5 Jan

Cant get my TS5350a to print with any driver except IPP everywhere, all the other drivers give routing errors. IPP everywhere is also flipping the double sided prints the wrong way. Added via localhost.

AAxios · 5 Jan

banger I wonder if it how it handles the paper mine prints all in one pass
doesnt suck it back and print second.
Am at a loss
weird your phone works

You using the canon print app on your phone?

Bbanger · 5 Jan

Axios It also works in Win 11 correctly after updating the driver. Stopped working but I am sure I tested it when I got the printer but works now with the new driver and doesn't reverse the double sided page. Must be old IPP everywhere driver with bugs.

Bbanger · 5 Jan

Axios You using the canon print app on your phone?

Yes. Although that is a little buggy as the print button disappears if you change settings and have to go back and start again but its doable.

AAxios · 5 Jan

banger Couple things my Cups shows this

Also it has a default option that can be changed

Mine is set default off but I can still print 2 sided maybe try changing that (Dunno)
Just something look at

beevomit · 5 Jan

banger Just to clarify some confusion many people have... IPP printing is driverless. It's a printing protocol that has to be available on the particular printer model in order to work. If the printer itself doesn't understand or support the IPP protocol, then it would require a software driver to be installed on the client. IPP capable printers are very useful in Linux environments where the manufacturer may not make a driver specifically for Linux clients.

@MarvinMinsky On some older printers, you might need to set the ‘Duplex (long-edge) back-sheet treatment’ (or worded as something similar) to ‘Rotate’ within your printer’s settings. I believe it's due to the way a particular printer's duplexer functions. Also, the application you are printing from may try to change or override those settings, meaning you may need to verify they match in the application as well as the system settings.

Anyway, just something to try and see if it helps or not.

Bbanger · 5 Jan

This is what I get trying anything but IPP everywhere and no print when send a test.

AAxios · 5 Jan

banger This is what I have on my printer
I could not get anything to work on the usb connection when I tried setting it up but it worked
perfect when I set it up for network.
Not sure what the Usb issue was

I selected the second option in (Discovered network printers) when I set it up
(Just info)

Bbanger · 6 Jan

@Axios Will have a play tomorrow I got USB is not supported yet in Plasma Printer setup. I will try another test setup, what does your driver screen look like?

Bbanger · 6 Jan

I tried the second option in Networking but the driver keeps defaulting to IPP Everywhere which has the bug and my printer isnt listed in the Canon list.

AAxios · 6 Jan

banger I dont have an answer but the way ipp everywhere works cant see that its the issue
but 2 sided print can not be supported with ipp everywhere.
Here some things may be of interest
https://docs.redhat.com/en/documentation/red_hat_enterprise_linux/9/html/configuring_and_using_a_cups_printing_server/determining-whether-a-printer-supports-driverless-printing_configuring-printing#determining-whether-a-printer-supports-driverless-printing_configuring-printing

https://www.pwg.org/printers/ (could not find your printer here but not sure how current data is)

Note: Oh in tcip settings on printer may sure you have ipp everywhere turned on you will have look in manual
and follow steps (Just something to check for sure)

Bbanger · 7 Jan

Thanks @Axios I will have a good read but for the few times I print front and back it might be easier to just re-insert the page from the rear tray after printing the first page.

Bbanger · 7 Jan

Further investigation shows it works in Win 11, Zorin, Android Print but not Solus. Zorin finds and discovers the printer correctly with driverless config. In Solus when I use that config I get no destination.

AAxios · 7 Jan

banger If usb is hooked up unplug it and try setting up.

Wonder if they want a bug report on it?
Thats what mine would do when I just had usb connection config never could make it work so i unplugged
the usb and config it for network (only) and everything worked never plugged usb in again.

Note: But thats the point of driverless printers if it dont work its kinda useless.

Bbanger · 7 Jan

Axios If usb is hooked up unplug it and try setting up.

Tried that but couldn't add the printer Cup admin said unable to find PPD file for printer, probably because it is a recent printer. Still works on IPP Everywhere tho.

Where would I raise an issue?

Edit: Found the issue page there are already several issues for Canon AIO Printers including cnijfilter2 which has been approved but needs a maintainer. I think this would solve my problem.