Nautlus doesn't launch(Gnome)

henriiquecampos

pomon Hey, I managed to make it recognize nemo. All the prompts worked now and it returns nemo when prompted xdg-mime query default inode/directory but the issue still persists. I can't download anything nor upload anything.

henriiquecampos

Guys, please help me. I can't upload files through Telegram nor Whatsapp apps nor download or upload through Brave or Firefox.

I already installed Nemo, and did what @pomon suggested, but it's not workin

brent

when you navigate to find a file, select a file, then click OPEN on the file in order to upload--isn't Engrampa the middle man? not nemo/naut?

PS--I would get rid of every shred of nautilus including all folders in /home.
I know I'm missing something here

pomon

You need to write more. What exactly is going on. Open Nemo in the terminal and see the errors. What does it mean that you can not send via Telegram.... others? Review the logs (journalctl).

henriiquecampos

For instance, when I open Gmail to download the files sent by my coworkers, if I click "download" nothing happens. It was supposed to pop a window that allowed me to choose the file name and path.
When using Notion if I press on upload image and nothing happens, it is supposed to pop a window that allows me to browse my files and select the file to upload.
When using Telegram, the same thing, when I right-click a file and select the "save as" option, it doesn't pop the window that allows me to browse my files and choose the file name and path.
If if press on the upload button, same thing, the file selection window doesn't pop.
Same thing on Whatsapp and anything I try to do on Brave(my browser)
When I drag and drop files on Telegram to workaround the upload process, it says "file [name of the file] is empty"

This all started after past week update :/

alfisya

Can you try running the step 1-3 in here. And then sudo usysconf run -f . It is a wild guess, but this sound like something incomplete update.

Edit: the step 3 might take times without any output. It is normal

henriiquecampos

alfisya it didn't work. I think I have to make a rollback?

pomon

Add Nemo to autostart and reboot

henriiquecampos

pomon didn't work :/

henriiquecampos

It seems like this was introduced in Gnome 47, as seen in this post.

https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/783899/debian-testing-gnome-47-nautilus-doesnt-start-anymore-why

But I didn't manage to run these commands on Solus:

sudo echo "GSK_RENDERER=cairo /usr/bin/nautilus \$@" > /usr/local/bin/nautilus
sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/nautilus

It says

bash: /usr/local/bin/nautilus: No such file or directory

pomon

Where do we stand? Are you back to Nautilus or are we still running Nemo? If nemo, create a file in ~/.config/autostart nemo.desktop with the content

[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=Nemo
Comment=Start Nemo desktop at log in
Exec=nemo-desktop
AutostartCondition=GSettings org.nemo.desktop show-desktop-icons
X-GNOME-AutoRestart=true
X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=2
NoDisplay=false

and reboot

henriiquecampos sudo echo "GSK_RENDERER=cairo /usr/bin/nautilus \$@" > /usr/local/bin/nautilus

If you want to create such a file in a given location, I suggest echo "GSK_RENDERER=cairo /usr/bin/nautilus \$@" | sudo tee /usr/local/bin/nautilus then chmod...
Check ls /usr/local/bin

henriiquecampos

pomon That worked!

I uninstalled Nautilus, installed Nemo again and created that desktop entry you suggested, literally copied pasted it.

It still doesnt work for Telegram and Whatsapp, but thats already some progress.

Thank you! Could you explain briefly why did it work Im̀ completely unlettered in linux, so you could really help me get some insights for future issues.

henriiquecampos

pomon hey pomon for some reason it's not working again, I tried deleting and creating the desktop entry again, but...it doesn't work.

Any thoughts? :/

@edit

Nevermind, when I logged in yesterday I disabled the desktop icons and as I logged in today it wasn't working. After re-enabling the desktop icons again and rebooting(actually just logging out/in) it's working again.

Does that mean I will have to have desktop icons enabled in order for that to work? I really want Nautilus to work again if this is the case :/

pomon

henriiquecampos Could you explain briefly why did it work

The idea is for the system to load Nemo as the main manager and not look for another one, in this case Nautilus.

henriiquecampos It still doesnt work for Telegram and Whatsapp,

I don't really understand what's going on with instant messaging. I know there is Telegram for Linux, but I haven't heard of WhatsApp. What exactly happens when you want to download something from these programs. It's best to run them in a terminal.

henriiquecampos

pomon I installed them using flatpak, I don't know how does that actually work, but if flatpak runs through somekind of container, might have something to do with that.

What happens is: nothing. I press on upload and the program freezes instead of opening the pop up window to select the file. Same for downloading. I will run through terminal using flatpak to see if I can get any meaningful error.

johano

henriiquecampos, I'm not sure if this will solve your problem, but maybe worth a try?

I've found often when I have problems with flatpaks accessing local files, it's down to how flatpak sandboxes the local file system, at least as far as I comprehend it. There is a flatpak program available called flatseal which allows the user to easily change flatpak permissions on a case by case basis. It may be worth installing flatseal that allows an easy way to manage problematic flatpak programs. In this case setting permission for giving access to your home folder files. Here is a screen grab of Flatseal adjusting this setting for a flatpak allowing access to the home folder (in this examplle goldendict-ng, but it would be the same for any other flatpak)

Sebastian

This sounds all very strange. Have you checked for broken packages?

You are on GNOME, so nautilus is set as default file browser.
That's what the command xdg-mime query default inode/directory is checking.

If you wanna go with nemo, you should set nemo as default file browser. This might solve the Telegram/WhatsApp issue, since they probably try to open what is set as default file browser.

You set default file browser with:
xdg-mime default org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop inode/directory

In this case, it sets nautilus. To set nemo, replace org.gnome.Nautilus.desktop with the name of nemo desktop file you find in /usr/share/applications/

Also I had read somewhere about a GNOME 47 nautilus bug. If I remember right, it was wayland related. You could try to boot in X11 session to check if it makes a difference.

henriiquecampos

Sebastian I always log in X11, Wayland has too many issues for me. For instance, I had to login Wayland because I can only use a second monitor on Wayland and I wanted to watch a movie with my GF yesterday, so I had to connect to a HDMI cable.

Today, I tried to open the Settings app, and it wasn't opening, I couldn't change my desktop settings because the option didn't appear. I logged off then in using X11 and it went back to normal.

BUT again, I tried to download some files from my email and the download dialogue doesn't open anymore.

This is getting really annoying.

Sebastian

henriiquecampos Connecting to org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Remote peer disconnected

Also, I believe GNOME changed the name of the file indexer from tracker to something else recently. Might also be related to this.

https://discourse.gnome.org/t/renaming-tracker-git-and-tracker-sparql-git-and-changing-default-branch/21461

Sebastian

As of the gsk render issue, you might try to run
sudo nano etc/environment and put GSK_RENDERER=gl in this file, save and reboot.

pomon

To return to Nautilus, reverse the commands applied to Nemo.
Install/uninstall Nautilus/Nemo.
Remove the nemo.desktop file from ~/config/autostart.

Suggestions:

Check that Nautilus does not open under Wayland and x11.
Try disabling tracker3 daemon -t and start Nautilus.
Check the logs associated with Nautilus or tracker3 (read about journalctl).
Finally, you can undo the update. Search the forum e.g. like this