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  • Major difficulties recovering system after week 27 and 28 updates

Matt_Nico now I am running into the same issue with the /home partition on my desktop computer. I snapped a pic of it as well:

It seems to be identical to the issue which is present on the laptop. So now I can say that both systems are exhibiting the exact same set of errors.

I have not yet applied the W39 updates as I do not know what will happen when I do. Should I just go for it?

      Matt_Nico Should I just go for it?

      I can't speak for your system, of course, but I installed Week 39 updates on two laptops and four VMs without any problems. Are you backed-up?

        Been watching not sure why 2 computers different would have the same issue.
        Do you have fastboot turned off on each?

        Its interesting.

          Matt_Nico One additional weird thing which is occurring on my desktop is that I will sometimes be unable to log in from the lock screen after the computer has gone into standby mode. There will be no option to type in the field where I must enter the password. This behaviour stops if I log out of the account and then log back into the system. This happens when the system is left in standby for longer than 6 hours, so I had just switched to powering off my system when this behaviour occasionally flares up (usually it will happen a few days in a row and then I will switch to powering the system down. I don't think this would be related.

          I actually also have this issue, but I usually resolve it by hitting "Switch User" and then logging back in. It kicks you back to the standby screen, but then password entry works. So I don't think this is related to your primary issue.

          The /home failing to mount, alongside the boot manager issue, would lead me to think there's a problem with the storage device. But the fact that it's replicated across both systems should rule that out. The odds of two drives failing in exactly the same way at exactly the same time in two separate systems are basically zero.

          Your issue seems to be beyond my knowledge to troubleshoot. I don't see any issues in your kernel logs either. This sure is a puzzle. If I think of anything I'll pipe in, but I'm not sure how to help you at this point. You need someone more experienced than myself.

              infinitymdm I will try out hitting switch user next time that issue crops up. But yeah I don't think that it's related to the main issue.

              I was thinking of drive failures, but as you said the chances of both systems having the exact same issue at the same time are so low. Thank you very much for looking into/at things for me even if the issue is still out there. Perhaps when I have more time some fresh installs will be in order

              Axios I haven't checked but iirc both systems would have fastboot disabled. This is also a new issue for two older installs (one especially so), so I would guess that the fastboot state wouldn't have an effect as it has not been changed for either system since the install occurred. My desktop would have been installed with either solus 4.2 or 4.3 sometime in 2021 and my laptop was installed with 4.4 in september 2023.

                    Matt_Nico Do both devices have similar SSDs?

                    I have not yet applied the W39 updates as I do not know what will happen when I do. Should I just go for it?

                    You can always select the previous kernel in the boot menu, so it can't hurt. Use sudo clr-boot-manager set-timeout 5 to always show the boot menu, or hold space on boot to show it once.

                        silke My laptop has a 256gb Intel SSD (on my laptop) and the other is a Samsung 1tb SSD (on my desktop). I can't remember the exact Samsung model off the top of my head but I think it was a 970 evo.

                        I went through with the updates on both my systems but nothing has changed issue wise. I still get the clr-boot-manager error on both of my systems, the issue with mounting /home has also persisted.

                        I do wonder if an update in the future might solve things. If things break again/entirely I will probably go for a reinstall.

                          Matt_Nico I had the exact same error this weekend, when I tried to boot up my desktop pc to apply the latest updates. And initially, especially when I saw your post, I thought that there's an issue with systemd.
                          But, as it turns out, my drive with the home partition actually died 🙁 Thanks god (no, thanks restic 😉), I got backups... New drive should be here in the next days... 🙏

                              eryvile I am extremely doubtful of my issue being a drive failure. The chances of it happening on two identical SSDs at the same time exact time (within 2hours of each other) is already infinitesimally small. For it to happen on two completely different SSDs, made on two separate dates (two years apart), and from two separate manufacturers is a near statistical impossibility.

                              If it is drive failures that sucks and I am out a couple hundred bucks, but drive failures just make no sense to me probability wise. The error on both devices appeared immediately following the W38 updates, there were no issues on either drive prior to this set of updates. If they had failed at the same time but one with the update and one without I would be more likely to believe it was a drive failure. To me it seems the simplest answer is that something in that set of updates changed the way my system is identifying my drives (Occam's razor and all that) . I don't think it would be possible that the update is the cause of the drive failure but that has crossed my mind.

                                  Matt_Nico I have since checked my desktop drive for any issues using smartmontools and it returned without any errors that I could see. So now I am fairly sure that at least my desktop drive is not failing.

                                      Matt_Nico Just to be sure about this I also checked on my portable drive install of Solus. The exact same clr-boot-manager also became present on this device. Again this error only appeared after I applied updates to this system (jumping from W26 to W29 iirc). There was no error present on this system either prior to me applying this set of updates.

                                      So this exact error is now being replicated across three of my systems, two on nvme drives and one on a usb drive (I know this isn't best practices but it lets me use the computers at my work). I can fairly certainly rule out drive failure. I don't know what is causing this issue but it definitely seem software related.