brent Well its like this back in the day I started with solus gnome then budgie
i dont remb it being as bad.
But I had more crashes when logging in at boot on gnome than anything else and when I went to auto boot
things seemed to be ok so thats where I kinda stayed.
Its not really an issue I log into my windows machine.
So prob should switch and see how it goes.

In the startup script for your browser, make the command line:
/path/to/browser/vivaldi %U --password-store=basic
Then it won't want to use the keyring

    Hmmm that works for brave to easy way to do it. But a reminder its stored in plaintext.

      Axios Hmmm that works for brave to easy way to do it. But a reminder its stored in plaintext.

      Does this imply, with this method, there are security issues which are something something...?

        qk4-li3

        Plain text would mean the password(s) are stored in plain text, i.e not encrypted. So yes deciding to do this would be sacrificing security for convenience.

          Sorry, I get tunnel vision sometimes .. 🙂
          I don't trust password managers, so I made my own, and don't let the browser keep any passwords at all.

            qk4-li3 The one I made for myself keeps an encrypted sqlite database, it'll retrieve a list of headers, and then only open the db when it needs to retrieve data under a header, and then immediately close. If you'd like to try it out, it's stand alone and portable, but I make no guarantees since I made it for me 🙂
            https://drive.proton.me/urls/5JTC4S1SJM#QsZVlakxclIq

              qk4-li3 Harvey Ok. It's no good then.

              But you never store passwords in your browser, right? So it wouldn't make a difference for your use case.

              One thing... I DON'T have any passwords stored in vivaldi. I never store any passwords in my browser.

                BloodFeastMan That's clever. Very nice of you to make such offer, thank you. I think that I don't have much use for it personally though. Still, nice gesture.

                Staudey But you never store passwords in your browser, right? So it wouldn't make a difference for your use case.

                That's right and it's great to have options then! Maybe I'll at least try it.

                So... something sudo-ing with .desktop files - ...now where's my vivaldi .desktop file? - found it... now what... erm... help!...
                How do I change startup script for my browser? What's proper way to do it?

                  qk4-li3 Note that whenever making changes to the desktop files you should copy the desktop file from /usr/share/applications/ to ~/.local/share/applications and then make your edits to the copy. Files in /usr/share/applications are managed by the package manager and your changes will be overwritten on a package update (which are frequent with Vivaldi). DEs will ignore desktop entries in /usr/share/applications if a file exists in ~/.local/share/applications with the same name. Note that you might need to fix the desktop file if it becomes incompatible with the application, there's no mechanism for syncing just a few changes to it. When you're done making changes to the local copy run update-desktop-database ~/.local/share/applications to make your DE pick up your changes.

                  qk4-li3 In the .desktop file, there are lines:

                  [Desktop Entry]
                  Version=1.0
                  Type=Application
                  Name=<name>
                  Comment=<not needed but whatever>
                  Exec=<THIS IS WHERE YOU PUT YOUR COMMAND LINE REVISION>
                  Icon=<some icon>
                  Path=<not needed for a web browser>
                  Terminal=false
                  StartupNotify=true

                  Hope this helps!

                  This (/usr/bin/vivaldi-stable %U --password-store=basic) modified startup script with additional command line argument or whatchamacallit* seems to work: auto-login on, no pop-ups when opening vivaldi. - *I'm not programming literate.

                  Thank you again @ReillyBrogan for an excellent answer and detailed and responsible instructions!
                  @BloodFeastMan Yes, good example is always helpful! Thank you very much.

                  For others, who may also bump their heads at this, I also found:

                  https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/HEAD/docs/linux/password_storage.md

                  If I'm not mistaken, this functionality is same with chromium based browsers, which Vivaldi also is.

                  Now then, do I keep it this way? I doubt it. Reason being that after a month, do I remember that I made this modification? Am I always careful to notice, if there's some another kind of deceiving wording used, when prompt storing password, like "Remember Me" or "Keep Me Logged In" etc.? Is there a tick box? Is it empty? If it's empty, then what? Is it already ticked? Then what? meh...