I recently got an absolutely crazy idea: create Solus-Users GitHub with some guides (Solus survival guide, Firefox survival guide, solus-efi-guide by @kyrios ), scripts, tweaks and themes for Solus. I think that's help new users adopting on Solus. Guides are written in other languages (not only English)
Solus-users unofficial community on github
George It's a great idea. It would be unofficial, and an aggregate of selected information and probably help many new users. You will have to distinguish it from the Forum which has the same function. And from the solus reddit which I don't often visit. I didn't know that kyrios guide existed tll a few days ago--very cool. If you can come up with a specific, narrow purpose (narrower than what you have, like 'immediate help' and/or 'getting solus dialed in to bluetooth' for examples then cool. You would need to recruit translators (as you said) and possibly an editor to keep guide curation within your focus. Gave it a like for you being inspired. Inspiration is everything.
Would be on with it, as a more centralized guide & tutorial repo, and more prolific than the current additional help center articles. If the Solus devs are even on par with it, it could also just be a place to suggest new guides to be added to the help center.
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brent my friend, do you have a github account? If yes then send a link on telegram t.me/G_BOG or e-mail: GBOG@protonmail.com
George I don't have any of those things! Make it happen, it's a good plan. PoorPocketsMcNewHold 's advice is also very good.
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My first thought was, "What's wrong with the forum"? We have relevant categories for nearly everything we need, plus "Off Topic" for everything else. And a functional search feature for recalling earlier posts that might help someone today.
To be honest, I'm not convinced that my first thought was wrong. If we give help to a newbie, or solve a problem someone is having, why should it go only go to the users in one place or the other?
WetGeek True. We also have official Reddit and official Help Page at main site to supplement the forum. I think what he is proposing is a synthesis of the three official channels (I even get fix it advice at dev tracker...). I think if focused it could be of service, but as you said: without a declared focus it would/could turn redundant in the scheme of things.
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A forum is the best and correct place.
Could this forum be better organized? (Most definitely In my opinion)
Maybe They are should look to other popular forums for ideas.
Maybe organize things by Popular Devices, Specific Hardware, Firmware, Apps, TUT's, etc, etc,
Kinda like this below (Arch layout XDA also has a similar sort of layout)
**4. Hardware (27)**
4.1. ARM architecture (6)
4.2. Bluetooth (6) (also in Wireless networking)
4.3. CPU (12)
4.4. Digital imaging (6)
4.5. Displays (3)
4.6. Graphics (35)
4.7. Hardware detection and troubleshooting (9)
4.8. Input devices (14) (also in Input)
4.8.1. Keyboards (7)
4.8.2. Mice (15)
**4.9. Laptops (9)**
4.9.1. 4GOOD (1)
4.9.2. Acer (34)
4.9.3. Alienware (4)
4.9.4. Apple (12)
4.9.5. ASUS (75)
4.9.6. Casper (1)
4.9.7. Chrome OS devices (13)
4.9.8. Clevo (3)
Just my two cents.
@JoshStrobl and I spent a solid 2-3 hours when when we set up Flarum just on setting up labels and topics for posts. We wanted to strike a balance between having so many topics that people would have trouble deciding how to label their posts and having so few that things end up being too hard to find.
And what we have found, is that even with the few topics and labels we do have, things are constantly mislabeled and need to be corrected by moderators. Incidentally, the Dev Tracker has even fewer labels and people struggle to assign one at all, let alone the correct one.
We have zero interest in replicating the level of detail that you find on sites like XDA. For them, this makes total sense because people are trying to find support or ROMs for their specific device out of the thousands that exist. XDA is enormous. Solus, on the other hand, has a single set of images for all devices. There may occasionally be a quirk or two for a specific system or component, but those kinds of issues almost always fall into one of a few categories:
- Issues with BIOS or UEFI Firmware compatibility for all Linux distributions
- Issues with specific kernel device drivers
- Issues with third-party device drivers
For (1) and (2), the vast majority of issues are eventually resolved with a future kernel or firmware update. For (3), this is usually the Nvidia drivers having a specific issue with certain devices or with the linux graphics stack. In general, we allow posts related to specific devices on our forums, but we do not believe our forums should ever be treated as a definitive source of information for those issues. There are frequently other resources like the Arch Wiki, driver repositories, or even github repos dedicated to specific hardware that will always be far more comprehensive.
If people have specific topics or labels they think we really need, we are open to suggestions and had always intended to grow those lists organically.
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Hello everyone! I would not like to create another forum, just because that forum on which I am writing this does an excellent job with this, I rather want to do F.A.Q with guides including guides written on non-English languages, tweaks and scripts (e.g. Fast-Cleaner for Solus which I posted few days ago) to make Solus easier to use
Github is available on this https://github.com/Solus-users
If you wanna help this project, please write your GitHub on this topic
DataDrake My comment was not criticism but more a suggestion as things move forward.
Because Solus is the best distro in my opinion I think the forum will only get evermore popular so you will find more and more people coming here for help and advice.
I thought it maybe better to label things a little more intuitively for the newbs to be able to navigate to their particular issue and post in the correct part of the forum.
I don't think you and @JoshStrobl should have to be running this forum day to day and I have no idea how you even find the time to take care of this forum as well.
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@George I don't appreciate you largely copying our Help Center content for laptop compatibility into your own hardware listing. If there are supplemental laptops that have support, then the appropriate step is to submit a PR to our help-center-doc repo.
If this is a sign of what is to be expected for this 3rd-party repo, then there is a lot of room for improvement.
Expanding on this, please refrain from sending contributor invites without the expressed consent by the individual.
JoshStrobl i'm added laptop from https://support.starlabs.systems/kb/compatibility-reports/solus-4-dot-1-budgie, which is not included HCD
George I am not sure I understand your point. We have a compatibility list already, which is the most appropriate, official location that it should be documented at.
Why not contribute to the official Solus sources (the Help Center etc) instead of putting it on some third-party github repo?
JoshStrobl the original idea was to create the most complete list of equipment by collecting everything in one place, but now I find her some what unreasonable
@George Thanks for the Github invite but unfortunately I don't have the time to work on something like this. That aside I don't know if this is the right way to go about it. Seems like it would just fragment everything further, which is the opposite of what you want. Improving the Help Center documentation were appropriate is probably a better idea.
I agree. Having a community site that complement the help center could be a good thing but only and only if it is done in the right way : it shouldn't compete with the help center (meaning fragmenting the info) but complete it with things that don't have their place on the help center (like some advanced topics).
Having a hardware listing instead of doing PR to complete the help center is the perfect example of counter-productive thing to do.
Defining tags/categories before having content doesn't make sense. It'll just end up by having a site that looks unfinished with lot of empty sections.
Duplicating the info or splitting the community across many different places is usually not a good thing, thus it is important to be very cautious when doing it. It should only be done on purpose and always redirect the visitor to the source for the info that are published there.
Just my two cents.
Thanks for the feedback, and the moderators for not deleting the post. The idea is to compile manuals on "how to wash your hands"-styles for beginners in different languages.
I sincerely believe that this noble goal will help you master Solus faster