I have a great idea to enable lua and python support for the raven panel and display additional information (for example: currency exchange rate, temperature or RPM sensor)
Ideas for Raven
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Easier said than done, requires us to develop a fairly comprehensive API for Raven and a similar manager to the one for the panel, which itself needs to be rewritten. Not going to likely happen until Budgie 11.
Individual widgets in Budgie itself (as opposed to via an Peas-based API that can be used by third-parties) I can see during Budgie 10.5.x though.
IMHO Raven doesn't really need that many more applets, anyways. Maybe one for weather or system resources. But it's not really meant to be like the Windows Sidebar where you can shove whatever you want there. It provides quick access to notifications, and a few other things that need more persistence than your typical panel widget. People forget that it used to be where Budgie Settings were configured.
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DataDrake But it's not really meant to be like the Windows Sidebar where you can shove whatever you want there.
On the contrary, my intent for it when I originally proposed it was for it to precisely be similar to the Windows Sidebar of the Vista days and the macOS Notification Center which in fact has a "WidgetKit" framework for enabling extensions to it. Just as with panel widgets / applets, you can always opt to keep it as "simple" as possible by just not installing or adding specific widgets to the panel.
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What is being proposed in that isn't really hot corners, it's more like "hot sides" that you have to use with specific mouse clicks, which immediately makes it non-usable on touchpads and would interfere with other operations (e.g. any DESKTOP-type windows) and even basic multi-monitor usage, so that isn't on the table.
Hotcorners will be in a future major version of Budgie (not 10 series) for specific native Budgie options (not executing arbitrary commands like some downstream "functionality" does).
JoshStrobl What is being proposed in that isn't really hot corners, it's more like "hot sides"
Yes! I think it is way cooler than Hotcorners 
that you have to use with specific mouse clicks,
Right click is okay I think. Middle click is more specific I agree.
which immediately makes it non-usable on touchpads
Sure if you don't use the mouse than this feature is not very useful for you (just don't enable it)
would interfere with other operations (e.g. any >DESKTOP-type windows) and even basic multi-monitor usage
I don't see how (I have been using the same concept on Windows with 2 monitors)
Hotcorners will be in a future major version of Budgie
Cool, but I don't like hotcorners 
Well, I agree that this feature is very specific.
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All features in Budgie are designed to work with both mouse and touchpads, with extra effort on consistency with actions being with left rather than right clicks. Right-click menus are fairly common, so they are typically seen as a global exception, but the only places we use that have an alternative primary action, e.g. IconTasklist, or on the desktop (which is a right-click menu to access Settings and the "background").
Having "gestures" that require mouse movement and a mouse click simultaneously aside from the usual drag-and-drop metaphor is neither discoverable nor user friendly, so you shouldn't really ever expect functionality to be included that'd require it.
This feature isn't "very specific", it's incredibly niche to the point that it wouldn't justifiably be included in Budgie. Budgie is intended to be a modern desktop environment that is in a middleground of personalization and functionality between that of GNOME Shell and Plasma (not too little customization, not too much that it is overwhelming and negatively impacts development iteration and overall usability).
Either way, don't really want this discussion getting off-topic, since the original discussion was a Raven API.
JoshStrobl Having "gestures" that require mouse movement and a mouse click simultaneously aside from the usual drag-and-drop metaphor is neither discoverable nor user friendly
not gestures, but click on the edge of the screen
Either way, don't really want this discussion getting off-topic, since the original discussion was a Raven API.
sure, sorry for the off-top
Solarmass not gestures, but click on the edge of the screen
Then you run into issues with multiple monitors where the user may not have intended for the right click to have been on that screen to begin with. You could argue "well just don't enable it then?" but we'd still have to have a setting for it in the first place, set-up and tear down bindings whenever it changed (or have the added logic whenever you right-click, have the WM catch that before handing it off, which is not desirable), etc. It just creates more code that has to be maintained and tested against whenever we make WM changes for what would only end up being a fraction of 1% of users.
JoshStrobl Then you run into issues with multiple monitors where the user may not have intended for the right click to have been on that screen to begin with.
What about hotcorners when you have multiple monitors? And if you have multiple monitors, on which one Raven opens?
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What about hotcorners when you have multiple monitors? And if you have multiple monitors, on which one Raven opens?
The functionality would be limited to the primary monitor, we'd require a similar mechanism to GNOME Shell involving what is effectively pushing your mouse against the edge, and it wouldn't be for Raven. It'd likely be for docks in specific configurations, and the menu. But seeing as none of that exists yet and won't exist until a later release of Budgie, it's just bikeshedding over hypothetical details for a hypothetical feature.
Anyways, back 
to API talk
