its goddamn awful, cant find a way to revert to the old

serves me right for trying gnome again i guess

edit: and who designed that font selector that you access via gnome tweaks? it takes a year to scroll through and its not even alphabetical. yes you can search but if you wanna go through all the fonts to see if any look better its a full days job just to get past all the notos. thats the single worst design i have ever seen. and then you have to start from scratch again of you want to try another font

    Lucien_Lachance and who designed that font selector that you access via gnome tweaks? it takes a year to scroll through and its not even alphabetical.

    Haha, yeah, that list is awful. Same thing for icon and widget themes.

    Regarding your main point: I see some posts/issues talking about how it's blurrier in Wayland session if fractional scaling is enabled. Does that apply to your system?

        One thing you could have tried was to play around with Fonts > Rendering section in the GNOME Tweaks app. I had some issues with GNOME's font rendering as I use font that is different from the default and playing around with hinting options helped with that.

          The good thing about KDE is that it doesn't need all the tweaks that Gnome needs, so it runs fairly smoothly.

          Everything is just out of the box.

          Sure, Gnome has its place, no question about it. But it's very rudimentary. If you want to make adjustments, you need the tweaks and there are surprises with every update... not my thing

          I remember there being a GNOME blog post about updates to font rendering but I can't seem to find it. I believe they made some changes in regards to the switch to Wayland but it is not complete. They are also mulling over moving off of Cantarell to something like Inter for the default font.

            diagnostics0 inter would be a terrible choice imo(so they will probably go for it), because the inter numbers arent monospaced, thus gui elements such as the clock might change size when a number changes from for example 0 to 1 (1 being much narrower) and in turn move other things on the panel slightly every few minutes

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              Lucien_Lachance and who designed that font selector that you access via gnome tweaks? it takes a year to scroll through and its not even alphabetical. yes you can search but if you wanna go through all the fonts to see if any look better its a full days job just to get past all the notos. thats the single worst design i have ever seen. and then you have to start from scratch again of you want to try another font

              You might be interested in this development: https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-Starts-2025

              Hopefully that tool will turn out to be more user-friendly than Tweaks
              (haven't tried it yet)

                  Staudey I just tried Refine a few days ago and the font selector is still the same... It was probably provided by gtk. I unintalled it right away for now, as Tweaks still has more options. It is a very new app after all.